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6th February 2021, 09:23 PM #76
First prize is a week in Hoppers Crossing staying in Doug3030's shed.
Second prize is a two weeks in Hoppers Crossing staying in Doug3030's shed.
Provide your own transport, food, drinks, masks, etc. You might get the use of our camping mattress if I can find it in all the mess.
Oh yeah - the timber vault is out of bounds.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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13th February 2021, 08:24 PM #77
I got some more done on the plane build today. Not a real lot but it was something.
Because nearly all my larger machinery is on wheels, I have a certain amount of setup to do to prepare stock. Typically stock preparation starts out with getting the 21" bandsaw, 8" longbed jointer and 15" thicknesser out from their hiding spots in between the timber storage shelves and set up down the middle of the shed. Once the parts are cut and dressed to size, those machines go back home and the tablesaw, router table, drill press and belt and disk sander take up their positions for the next stage.
So today I set up to prepare the blanks for the plane bodies. But that was as far as I got with the planes because I thought that while I was set up for breaking down materials I might as well get some prep for another couple of projects done as well to save rearranging the shed again another day. Therefore, progress was limited to production of two rectangular blocks. Nothing actually worthy of a photo yet.
Not sure if I will get shed time tomorrow since it will be Valentines day, but I might be able to do some work on the challenge thanks to the Victorian Lockdown meaning we can't go out for dinner or even a drive around. If I get the soles profiled and the wedges cut and fitted it will be worth a photo.
Let's see what tomorrow brings.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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13th February 2021, 08:38 PM #78SENIOR MEMBER
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Hey Doug,
any progress is good progress at this stage….
I got a section cut out of the leaf spring today and eventually got smoke coming from the mill, but it seems fine once it cooled off
a block of wood must be photo worthy anytime on a woodwork forum
cheers
phil
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13th February 2021, 08:57 PM #79
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14th February 2021, 06:28 PM #80
Ok, I got a little bit done today again. The soles are profiled but still might need some minor adjustments.
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Once the wedges are made, the bed and breast lines cut and chiseled out, they should be able to make a shaving with some adjustments of course.
Now I suppose I had better name them before anyone else comes up with something I don't like.
This pair of matching Tongue and Groove planes made for 7/8" stock, as required for the toolchest build I will be starting shortly are henceforth known as Double Trouble.
Of course there is a backstory to the name but even after all the innuendo going on in here over some of the names I doubt I would get away with telling it all on the forum. Let's just say that it was the collective nickname I used for a couple of young ladies I was well acquainted with back when I was a super-fit super-soldier and chick-magnet in my early 20's. Like the planes, they used to like working together as a team. There's plenty of obvious puns and innuendos there for anyone who is brave enough to use them.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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14th February 2021, 06:42 PM #81
I am shocked... ...that you didn’t pick Tag-Team!
Victorian Blackwood?Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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14th February 2021, 06:44 PM #82GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Doug. Really like the look of your planes. I think I might like to make myself a pair very soon
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14th February 2021, 06:51 PM #83I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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14th February 2021, 08:01 PM #84
Double Trouble, with sneaky little pics, immmm
Doug, I sense your are up too something!!
Looking good tho [emoji6].
Cheers Matt.
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15th February 2021, 09:00 PM #85
One day I might overcome my obsession with dense exotic timbers that are too hard to work by conventional means.
Queen Ebony is bloody hard. But once these plane bodies are made they will outlast the human race.
They will probably also destroy most of the tools I use to make them.
Today I made a little jig to hold the plane bodies while I try to shape it with nuclear-powered tools.
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Just a simple frame and wedge setup that clamps into the tailvise on my bench.
As you can see I made a wedge and started cutting out the bed and breast on the grooving plane. I need to go a bit deeper there yet but I am leaving that until I have made the tonguing plane. This is because the blade of the tonguing plane will rest hard up against the fence but the blade on the grooving plane floats away from the fence, so it is the logical one to adjust to the other. So once the tonguing plane is done, I finish sinking the blade and wedge into the grooving plane little by little until I have a perfect fit. Well that's the game plan anyway.
I might have to do another couple of projects that have come to the top of the pile before I do any more on Double Trouble. If there are no more updates this week, that's why.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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15th June 2021, 07:21 PM #86
So here we are four months later ...
I had put the box with all the plane bits in it under the bench when the people who said there would be no time extensions granted everyone a blanket time extension because that meant I had time to concentrate on other more pressing projects that I had put aside to free up time for the plane challenge.
Just to reiterate, the reason I was making "Double Trouble" was because I needed to make a tongue and groove joint for the lid of the toolchest I am making and I had been looking, unsuccessfully, for a Stanley 48 for a few years. So with Double Trouble nearing completion, this fell from the sky and hit me on the head.
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Well actually it came up for sale on the forum for a fair price and in good condition so naturally I bought it. After some consideration of making another plane for the challenge, I decided that Double Trouble, though now no longer as much in demand, still needed to be finished. (The lollipop came with the timber-grain material that Jools just bought which is the background for the photo.)
Anyway, as indicated above, the next job was to make the tongue plane usable so that I could match the groove plane to the set.
After a short time this afternoon I was satisfied I had the blade and wedge fitting nice and tight into the plane body so I decided to test it out. I clamped a piece of 7/8" Crapiata Scandanavia (the scientific name for timber recycled from a broken Ikea futon bed) into the shoulder vise and made a few shavings.
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Obviously I have a little bit of refining to do on the escapement but that's not a bad start.
Just to make sure that I set the right expectations here - this is NOT the type of plane you want to make gossamer-thin shavings on. If you are cutting a 1/4" tongue or groove at 1 thou per pass that would take 250 passes
There's a whole 15 days to go so I don't really see it as a 'sprint" to the finish that others have mentioned but there's still a lot of fiddling and fine adjustment to come.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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15th June 2021, 07:43 PM #87
Glad to see Double Trouble is back in the running; how’s the grooving half coming on?
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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15th June 2021, 08:00 PM #88
At this stage I have removed most of the waste between the bed and the breast down to about 1/16th" short of where i estimate the required depth to be. This is so that I can sneak up on the right depth so that the planes match exactly. This is possibly the part of the build that will either make or break it.
I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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19th June 2021, 07:47 PM #89
Ok, I have spent a few hours in the shed since the last update, not all of the time was devoted to "Double Trouble" but significant progress has been made with them. So, lets look at the two planes separately for a progress report.
The Tongue Plane:
As previously reported this plane is now to the stage that it can take a shaving.I realized today that from that point where the first shaving was taken that this plane has now met the minimum requirements for an entry in it's own right.
As I said in the previous post there is still a lot more to do to refine it from a "meets minimum parameters" plane to being a fully functional tool which is a pleasure to use.
I cut two short lengths of 7/8" stock, one to cut a shallow tongue profile into it to use while matching the groove plane to the tongue plane, and the other obviously for testing for a match with the groove plane profile.
Here is a pic of the tongue plane with a shallow profile cut in the test material and the resultant shavings:
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EDIT: there's a failed attachment here somewhere. I can't delete it. It is the same photo as the one above that you can see.
The Groove Plane
I have now set the depth of the blade into the body to match up with the tongue plane. Like the tongue plane, the wedge is now a nice tight fit into the body, pushing the blade securely along the full length of the bed.
After cutting a shallow groove profile I took a photo of the groove plane posed similar to the tongue plane photo above. I will have to find a suitable tablecloth for the background for the "judging" pics. A workbench as a background for woodworking tools just doesn't make the grade in this competition.
So with photographic evidence of a functioning plane (Shavings) I guess that the Groove Plane would qualify as an entry in it's own right too.
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Double Trouble
I mentioned above that both planes would qualify as individual entries in their own right so I will just make it clear that I have no intention of entering them as anything but a pair. They were designed as a matched pair, were built as a matched pair and that is how I intend to present them to the judges. But in the unlikely event that something catastrophic happens to one or the other I guess I have a fallback position.
Now, as indicated above, I now have two shallow profiles cut; one from each plane. I suppose everyone is hanging out to see if they match up?
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It seems like quite a while ago now that I spent a lot of time ensuring that the layout and cutting of the profiles on both plane bodies and the blades was spot-on. Now my patience is being rewarded.
If anything I may have been a little too accurate in matching the timber profile with that of the blades. With the wooden profiles exactly matching the blades (within a couple of thou) there is a bit too much friction when using the planes and it gets worse as you cut the profile deeper. That's one of the reasons I just cut shallow profiles for the testing at this stage, but now that I know that everything is aligned, I can thin out the wooden profiles a bit so that they are thinner than the blades. I want to take of just a smidgen so that friction is reduced but the wooden profiles still help keep the plane straight through the cut. I am pretty confident that it will just take a bit of well-considered sanding.
Hopefully I can have that sorted tomorrow. Then I can get onto some of the other fine-tuning like improving the escapement. Then all that should be left is to make them comfortable and pretty. The end is in sight.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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19th June 2021, 10:40 PM #90
Looking good Doug. As for the end being in sight, it needs to be cos, well ...tick...tick...tick.
Back to workCheers, Bob the labrat
Measure once and.... the phone rings!
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