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19th June 2021, 11:28 PM #91
A good result so far; dunno about you but I’m getting excited about seeing the joint cut full depth once the fettlin’ be finished!
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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20th June 2021, 09:21 AM #92SENIOR MEMBER
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Looking good but don't forget Doug, you have to get out of the shed sometime so Jools can work on her masterpeice!
Cheers
Bob
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20th June 2021, 10:55 AM #93
Bob, the shed is big enough for the two of us. We have discussed our work schedules for today. She will be using the metalwork area to cut the slot into her blade and grind the bevel. Then she should be heat treating this afternoon. Since she is also a knife-maker she can handle all that.
I will be working at my workbench for most of the day so we should not have any territory wars. There may however be some discussions on what music is playing and a compromise reached.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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20th June 2021, 02:42 PM #94
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20th June 2021, 03:19 PM #95
Actually the usual compromise is to play the Spotify playlist put together by my veterans knife-making group. The group consists of veterans from 20 to 70 ish year-olds so the music selections are pretty diverse but most people chose music of general appeal so as not to upset the others.
Neither of us are very militant in what we will and won't listen to anyway. If I am in the shed by myself I like to play 1970's stuff. Jools being 7 years younger than me, likes some of the more recent stuff but is fine with most of my music anyway.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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22nd June 2021, 11:02 PM #96
Time for a couple of pictures.
A couple of shots of the planes and a little test piece.
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Note the sandpaper taped to the granite surface plate to help with the finishing.
Below you can see my frame and wedge jig for holding the plane bodies being used for it's alternate use of having a piece of 1/8" O1 Tool steel with a piece of sandpaper taped to it to facilitate cleaning up the insides of the profiles on the bases of the planes. One of the advantages of being a knife/blade maker is having a good selection of ground flat steel to use for things like that.
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I will probably spend a few more hours over the remainder of the week fine-tuning and removing sharp corners and edges before submitting the final pictures for judging.
Just some thoughts on my choice of materials. I chose Queen Ebony for the plane bodies for a few reasons. It's hardness is an advantage for longevity and hard-wearing. The sole will become polished as it is used, reducing friction. It's weight gives the planes a good feeling in the hand and helps maintain momentum in the cut. I chose Olive Wood for he wedges because I wanted something that was hard enough to withstand being jammed between a piece of Queen Ebony and O1 tool steel and still have enough "give" in it to compress a little to grip properly. Obviously all the "give" has to be in the wedges as the other items won't "give" at all.
Yes, there have been some challenges and added complexity in the build from the timber choices which made me question my sanity at times but then my sanity is questionable at the best of times. I love working with hard timbers like Queen Ebony and many of the Aussie Desert Timbers. I once made a set of wooden hinges out of Gidgee and swore I would never do that again. Despite the challenges it provided I would definitely make another plane out of Queen Ebony because it produces an excellent feeling plane.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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23rd June 2021, 07:51 AM #97GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Doug. Your planes are looking good enough to be the backing band for Stevie Ray Vaughan! Seriously lovely work. I hope you havent copyrighted the design, I want to make myself a pair now. Although I also want to make a pair of snipes bill planes, and.... Did you end up tapering the blades? (I think I remember some talk about doing it)
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23rd June 2021, 12:28 PM #98
Hopefully they will have a longer lifespan than Stevie Ray did
No copyright on the design, MA. Not much different from ones that are over 100 years old. There are quite a few design variants that I considered before settling on that design. Some variations are far more complex than the really need to be with no real advantage to be gained from the extra work.
Just by chance I have been wanting to make a pair of snipes bills too. Now they would look spectacular in Queen Ebony with brass inlays.
No, I didn't taper the blades. I see no advantage in it when using precision ground flat stock. I think I posted in the previous discussion on the subject that I believe it used to be done by the blacksmiths back in the day to save a bit of metal and they convinced the woodworkers that they did it because it made the blades fit tighter to make a selling point out of it.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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24th June 2021, 12:38 PM #99
Some people think that all planes are judged by their ability to take gossamer-thin shavings. They are probably the same people who believe in fairies, leprechauns and unicorns. If you are one of those people this picture is for you. 1 thou shavings off a joinery plane.
I just wanted to show that Double Trouble are versatile.
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For those who have a deeper appreciation of joinery planes, and understand the difference between them and smoothing planes, this is your picture below.
A couple of taps on the end of he blade and now we are taking 8 thou shavings and will get the job done in a more workman-like manner.
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Although both planes are taking nice shavings, I still have some work to do on the escapements.
I am doing some experiments on shaping the end of the wedge to direct the shavings where they need to go. This will remain secret at the moment, kind of like the winged keel in the 1983 America's Cup challenge.You will hear all about it's successes but you might not get to see it.
Here is a picture of two shavings coming out of the escapement on the tongue plane, so it is working somewhat. still room for refinement. I may yet need to resort to cutting into the breast of the plane, but I am hoping to avoid that.
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The groove plane is much simpler to get the escapement working on because there is only one shaving and it is produced right next to the edge of the body, as you can see in this picture.
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I may be able to get this working a little better but at this stage I need to get the tongue plane priority.
Anyway, I have had the heaters on in the shed for long enough now for it to be warm enough to go out and do some more. I will be back later.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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24th June 2021, 05:11 PM #100Originally Posted by doug3030;2244311x
Must say I am impressed with the 1 thou shavings - it may not be necessary but shows the quality of the plane.Cheers, Bob the labrat
Measure once and.... the phone rings!
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25th June 2021, 06:28 PM #101
What else is there to say?
20210625_155216.jpg20210625_155411.jpgI got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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25th June 2021, 06:34 PM #102
Smooooooooth
Cheers, Bob the labrat
Measure once and.... the phone rings!
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25th June 2021, 08:01 PM #103
Nice joint.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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25th June 2021, 08:16 PM #104
Now you just need to knock up a beading plane and/or a chamfer plane to add a decorative touch!
That’s an excellent looking joint; neat, square and flush. Looks like your match planes are perfect, well done!Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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25th June 2021, 09:48 PM #105SENIOR MEMBER
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