Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 72
  1. #31
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    It works!
    IMG_0077 copy.jpg
    Now, these are not the official challenge shavings (this stick is walnut), just a progress proof of performance. I had to tweak the mating of the blade and chip-breaker (lots of discussion about that in the Tips, Techniques and Theory thread). The blade requires more sharpening and the body needs more attention to detail - I still haven't really flattened and conditioned the sole yet. But I know now that all the parts fit with sufficient accuracy to to proceed with final finishing. Unless I really muck something up, I shouldn't need to depend on plane #2.

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #32
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    6,973

    Default Challenge 2020-2021 Sheets

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheets View Post
    It works!
    IMG_0077 copy.jpg
    Now, these are not the official challenge shavings (this stick is walnut), just a progress proof of performance. I had to tweak the mating of the blade and chip-breaker (lots of discussion about that in the Tips, Techniques and Theory thread). The blade requires more sharpening and the body needs more attention to detail - I still haven't really flattened and conditioned the sole yet. But I know now that all the parts fit with sufficient accuracy to to proceed with final finishing. Unless I really muck something up, I shouldn't need to depend on plane #2.
    Sheets.

    That’s fantastic, another working plane,

    You got to be happy with that, the Purple Heart really stands out well.[emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

    Cheers Matt.

  4. #33
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    You got to be happy with that, the Purple Heart really stands out well.

    Cheers Matt.
    Thanks Matt. The wood is very nice - will be ever more so when oiled and waxed. I just hope I can contain the few odd remnants of tear-out so they won't detract too much .

  5. #34
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Mt Waverley Vic 3149
    Age
    81
    Posts
    679

    Default

    Congratulations, you should be very pleased with your efforts. Looking forward to seeing the final polished article.

  6. #35
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    807

    Default

    Looks great! I also like the look. How do you prevent the purple heart from turning grey again? What finish are you going to use?

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

  7. #36
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cklett View Post
    Looks great! I also like the look. How do you prevent the purple heart from turning grey again? What finish are you going to use?

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
    Thanks!

    I'm going to use tung oil and wax as a finish. I don't know if I can prevent it from changing colour, but I suspect if it is kept indoors, it will last quite a while before turning brown - but brown is ok (will match the rust on the metal ), as the figure will still be visible.

    One other item I will have to decide on is, when I cut the opening for the mouth, I made it 3 mm (too eager to get on with it ) which is really too large. It should plane ok, as witnessed by the walnut, but for fine shavings in more difficult wood, it may be a problem. I might come up with an insert to narrow the mouth, but still undecided. I guess I can wait and see how well it does with pine, then opt-in if necessary.

  8. #37
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Location
    Dandenong Ranges
    Posts
    1,865

    Default

    Hi Sheets. Well done. The little tingle of pride in your acheivement is addictive. Looks great, how much decoration would a "traditional" plane have?

  9. #38
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    near Mackay
    Age
    59
    Posts
    4,628

    Default

    Congratulations Sheets, looks good and I’m sure it’ll be a pleasure to use.
    ​Brad.

  10. #39
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Ash View Post
    Looks great, how much decoration would a "traditional" plane have?
    For the wood body, not much if any. Just the inherent qualities of the wood generally and the crispness of the workmanship (which, of course tends to go for a slide after some use and age). There is more variation in detail for the metal parts - pretty much whatever the blacksmith wants to do to it, with emphasis on the cutting ability of the edge regardless of any cosmetic embellishments. Each blacksmith wants to differentiate his product from all the others which follow the basic form (wood body with a blade or blade plus chip-breaker), so they add their own distinctive "marks" (the Japanese characters which indicate brand or name, hammer, chisel, file patterns, etc.). The more "work/time" put into cosmetics, generally means more cost, but of course does not necessarily equate to more/better performance. The chosen cosmetics, if any, must also appeal to the potential buyer, so are not applied willy-nilly (more is better type of thing), but are a quite considered and generally skillfully applied.

  11. #40
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Millmerran,QLD
    Age
    73
    Posts
    11,095

    Default

    Sheets

    Are the JP planes always used with a pull action or can they either pull or push?

    Regards
    Paul
    Bushmiller;

    "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"

  12. #41
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Are the JP planes always used with a pull action or can they either pull or push?

    Regards
    Paul
    Hi Paul,

    I'm not an expert, so can't say how often someone would tend to prefer to push, but generally, the Asian style planes are designed to be pulled and that is (always?) the way you see them used. For myself, I have not tried pushing, so can't give any feedback on how it would work, but I'm sure it could be mastered. I have a Stanley No.4 with a scraper insert and Makita power planer which are push planes and do not find it feels "strange" to switch between pushing them and pulling the Japanese planes. I think it is how the hands are placed and the amount of sole ahead or behind the blade that governs the "best" direction to move.

  13. #42
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    I decided I would add a wood insert to the sole which would close up the mouth so wood would plane better. I thought a dark colour wood would provide a better contrast than a light colour wood would (would I stop with the alliteration, already!). As I have no such dark colour wood on hand or under foot, I have to wait 'til some I ordered from Lee Valley arrives (African Ebony pen blank - less than 5 bucks). In the meantime, I will continue to tweak the blade edge and make some fancy plugs for the holes where the chip breaker pin goes.

    Anyway, that's what's up with my build. Nice to see all the progress from other challengers

  14. #43
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    I received my piece of ebony (20x20x155 mm) from Lee Valley. Never worked with it before, but after a quick planing to remove the saw marks, it seems to not present any difficulty in working it.

    As I mentioned earlier, I cut the mouth too wide - because I cut on the wrong side of my blade edge line on the sole . I should have started my cut in from the sole on the bevel side of the line (done to prevent blasting out the blade mortice on the sole side). In the pic, I have my second plane body marked correctly for comparison (the blade edges lined up). After the mortice is finished and the blade fitted, the mouth should then be created in accordance with where the edge actually is (not me, but some people might miss their mark ).
    IMG_0081 copy.jpg

    The ebony will be a dove-tail insert about 6 mm thick across the sole at the blade edge, and then pared away to create a much narrower mouth (if all goes according to plan ).This pic illustrates the orientation, but obviously I have yet to cut it to size.

    IMG_0082 copy.jpg

  15. #44
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Bundaberg
    Age
    54
    Posts
    3,402

    Default

    I reckon that bit of ebony will be good for the sole! However, traditionally an insert would have the grain running in the same direction as the body; perhaps you could consider joining two or three thin pieces together to get sufficient width?

    Will you also use it for making the plugs for the chip breaker pin?
    Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.

  16. #45
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Lawrencetown, NS, Canada
    Posts
    587

    Default

    I had thought about grain direction - but with this piece I will just have to live with the grain going crosswise. I would rather it be continuous than multiple pieces (I will have trouble enough getting one piece to fit). I haven't checked the end grain yet, but hopefully there will be a slight bias from one side to the other along the face (or I could slice it that way?) but it's still going to be cross grain. The wood is very close-grained and is supposed to be quite hard so that should help.

    As for the plugs, right now my plan is to make them from tagua nut, which is very light coloured, almost white. I'm shooting for the piano keyboard effect . However, should the contrast prove to be too visually incongruent (ugly), using some ebony will certainly be plan B.

    Btw Chief - I did my time on ships too, but I was "crab fat" (Air Force). I flew helicopters, so was good at breaking stuff, not fixing them.

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Challenge 2020 - 2021 Simplicity
    By Simplicity in forum PLANE CHALLENGE 2020-21
    Replies: 476
    Last Post: 1st January 2022, 11:20 PM
  2. Challenge 2020 - 2021 Doug3030
    By doug3030 in forum PLANE CHALLENGE 2020-21
    Replies: 109
    Last Post: 26th June 2021, 05:29 PM
  3. Challenge 2020 -2021 MountainAsh
    By Mountain Ash in forum PLANE CHALLENGE 2020-21
    Replies: 78
    Last Post: 21st February 2021, 02:10 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •