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    Quote Originally Posted by banjopicks View Post
    I have another language to learn? I was just getting used to Australian i think. Crikey mate, pass the Jara.
    Australian is very easy to learn,
    Just shorten everything lol.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Australian is very easy to learn,
    Just shorten everything lol.

    Cheers Matt.
    And stick an O on the end.

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    Examples please, I really want learn your language.

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    If you check YouTube, there are a few vids by learned fellows who are able to explain "Stroin" - watch enough and you can get a University credit.

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    Well recently there was some confusion regarding actually what sort of plane I was making,
    Ian politely suggest I was doing a Panel plane.
    I spent 4.6 seconds on google,
    Couldnít find a Panel plane.
    I did find this tho !

    Jack plane - Wikipedia

    But I donít know who this bloody Jack is,an he certainly is not building my Plane.

    So my plane is a Matthew plane,
    Tho you have my permission to abbreviate that too Matt.
    Or if you find it easier just call it the ďThe BodyĒ

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Well recently there was some confusion regarding actually what sort of plane I was making,
    Ian politely suggest I was doing a Panel plane.
    I spent 4.6 seconds on google,
    Couldnít find a Panel plane.
    I did find this tho !

    Jack plane - Wikipedia

    But I donít know who this bloody Jack is,an he certainly is not building my Plane.

    So my plane is a Matthew plane,
    Tho you have my permission to abbreviate that too Matt.
    Or if you find it easier just call it the ďThe BodyĒ

    Cheers Matt.
    So it's a "Body" plane (I would like to claim some credit for influencing the nomenclature with my sculptural plane and have that in reserve with the judges if my offering flops) with a matt finish. Doesn't sound very flashy to me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    So it's a "Body" plane (I would like to claim some credit for influencing the nomenclature with my sculptural plane and have that in reserve with the judges if my offering flops) with a matt finish. Doesn't sound very flashy to me.



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    Putting a few irons in the fire literally Paul.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    ......I spent 4.6 seconds on google,
    Couldnít find a Panel plane....
    That's odd, Google mustn't like you, Matt - it took me 0.47 seconds (according to Google's timer) to find a panel plane.

    But what's in a name? It's your plane so you can call it whatever you like, matt is as good as jack who's as good as his master.....

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    That's odd, Google mustn't like you, Matt - it took me 0.47 seconds (according to Google's timer) to find a panel plane.

    But what's in a name? It's your plane so you can call it whatever you like, matt is as good as jack who's as good as his master.....

    Cheers,
    Show off

    Cheers Matt.

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    For those interested !!!!
    The article in post 68 that Ian posted,is very good, especially for those building metal Bodied planes.


    Cheers Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    For those interested !!!!
    The article in post 68 that Ian posted,is very good, especially for those building metal Bodied planes....
    'Tis! Wish I'd had it when I started making my first mnetal-bodied plane. I started long before that was posted, but it was up long before I finished!

    Note that in that article, he is using the "notched" style for clamping his dovetails (apparently favoured by Mathieson). This is fine & good for joining the same two metals, you won't see anything when it's all cleaned up after peening. But if you are joining brass sides to a steel sole, it would result in funny little pimples in the corners of your dovetails. It's better in this case to put a small chamfer along the entire side of the brass dovetail & pound the steel over that. When the excess is filed away, you should be left with neat, straight sides on the D/Ts.

    Did you notice the number of mis-hits he's made?! I think part of his problem was trying to work around all those clamps. I started out using too many clamps on my first couple of planes, partly because I wanted to be absolutely sure nothing would move, but mainly because I didn't take enough care in getting the tails & pins to fit tightly against each other. The better you get that fit, the easier it is to peen it all up nicely. If you have big gaps or are trying to force things together that don't want to sit quite flush against each other, it's a much more difficult job all-round, so take your time & file very carefully to your layout lines. Time spent at this stage saves time peening and results in a vastly better job!

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    'Tis! Wish I'd had it when I started making my first mnetal-bodied plane. I started long before that was posted, but it was up long before I finished!

    Note that in that article, he is using the "notched" style for clamping his dovetails (apparently favoured by Mathieson). This is fine & good for joining the same two metals, you won't see anything when it's all cleaned up after peening. But if you are joining brass sides to a steel sole, it would result in funny little pimples in the corners of your dovetails. It's better in this case to put a small chamfer along the entire side of the brass dovetail & pound the steel over that. When the excess is filed away, you should be left with neat, straight sides on the D/Ts.

    Did you notice the number of mis-hits he's made?! I think part of his problem was trying to work around all those clamps. I started out using too many clamps on my first couple of planes, partly because I wanted to be absolutely sure nothing would move, but mainly because I didn't take enough care in getting the tails & pins to fit tightly against each other. The better you get that fit, the easier it is to peen it all up nicely. If you have big gaps or are trying to force things together that don't want to sit quite flush against each other, it's a much more difficult job all-round, so take your time & file very carefully to your layout lines. Time spent at this stage saves time peening and results in a vastly better job!

    Cheers,
    Yes I noticed he was more like lighting never hitting the same spot twice.
    But I think your right Ian working around all those clamps wow that would be difficult.

    Iím really reluctant to be giving advice here, because Iím a newb,
    But I actually didnít find the peening that difficult in my first two plane builds!.
    The other stuff yes, but the peening no.


    The links in the article may offer some ďbetterĒ advice.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Iím quite pleased with my effort today on the ďBodyĒ

    I achieved nothing, so thatís a win, I could have gone backwards, but know Iím still pushing hard forward.
    But my straight Edge did arrive thank You Amazon.

    As for Australia post you promised me,on my Australia post app my 01 Tool steel would be here!!! and itís not ,liars.



    Nice Tablecloth that one.
    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    ...... I actually didnít find the peening that difficult in my first two plane builds!.
    The other stuff yes, but the peening no.....
    Given your past life, I would have been very surprised if you did!

    But it is a warning to those who haven't had any prior experience at hammering metal. In my "manual' I advise newcomers to peening to start holding the hammer 50-60mm from the head (the opposite of what you have always been told). That serves two purposes, it helps you strike accurately, and the blows are less likely to be too hard. The 'secret' with peening is to hit just hard enough to make a small ding.

    There will always be a few mis-hits, but as long as they aren't direct, savage blows, the small ding in the wrong place should file & sand out at clean-up time.

    Most people find the knack develops pretty quickly, and once you get into the rhythm, there's a calm zen feeling that develops as you watch the metal slowly responding to your will. It's a very good idea to have a practice run & make a few joints from scrap before taking the hammer to the real thing....

    Cheers,
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    Today was more filling,
    Well actually it was cutting hacking and then filling and filling and filling,
    Plus lunch and coffee and slacking off .
    Problem is as I write this Iím having some Dťjŗ vu.

    So tails have been ruff cut in the sides,this was done while the two sides were together.


    I may need to tweak them once Iíve got my soul worked out, sorry i mean the base of the plane .

    Pretty happy with spacing tho,






    Cheers Matt.

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