Thread: 1928 Sydney Harbor Ferry

well stop yeh bitchn its not the amatures that we need to worry about its the the pros who behave like amatures but we pay them like their profesionals !!!!!! :eek:

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Yep thats it!! Just ignore me... Like I care

You said you wanted advice assistance and help sorry I took notice of that and offered some... mmm if that makes me a wanker whats asking for advice and when getting it (even if you dont like it) make you sport?

By all means as has been said before keep posting and updating us Id be interested to know how it goes... seriously! And also as Ive repeatedly said she is a beauty.

Steve go have a friggin read will you? Then suck a bloody goanna's ass! No where have I made any comment that says or implies its not up to my standard... ALL I HAVE said all along is for this idiot to do the job right!...

You and he are happy having broken frames in your OLD wooden boat? Remind me to tell you to get stuffed if you ever ask me to go fishing with you eh!...

And yeah that black stuff on the paint? Tells anyone who cares to look that this idiot didnt clean the bliges so couldnt have got close enough a look to KNOW what the hells wrong with it...

I flamed him? Dont be a bloody jerk Steve! I nowhere near flamed this idiot... I offered him advice not accolades... I offered some suggestions not pats on the back... I offered him a suggestion on a few areas that I saw as potential problem areas that he showed in his pictures not cuddles and huggies... I also offered my opinion of shyteheaded morinic dipsticks who buy these beautiful old boats then cause theyre too up their own asses to actually listen to advice F*** the entire restoration up and then cry in their friggin beers cause its broken cause they were offered some advice but decided they "dont need this"... WHEN ITS WHAT THEY BLOODY ASKED FOR!!... did I say or imply that meant him and his mates? no its a generalisation based on years of watching said shytehead moronic dipsticks... he wants to take that personal thats his choice...yet cause I do offer advice and dont play the luvy duvy everythings wonderful game Im a wanker??

Remind me not to offer advice or knowledge or anything to someone that asks for it... instead I will do like youve done eh? "Ooooh goodie look at that lovely old boat isnt it beautiful good job well done mate dont worry about the nasty bloke over there who is offering you advice ignore him listen to me Im praising you"

BULLBLOODYSHYTE! This idiot asked for our advice when someone gives it and he doesnt like it so he starts calling that person names? what a crock of crap! :mad:

ITS AN OLD BOAT... 1928 remember!! Friggin hell it would be a RARE as hens teeth that any OLD WOODEN BOAT didnt have a fair few problems! Let alone one from 1928!!... he said he was a skiff sailor not a boat builder remember... he asked for advice REMEMBER!! I didnt say there were DEFINANTLY broken frames just that it looked like there were POSSIBLY a few but I also said the bloody pic was a bit IFFY to say definantly... damn this gives me the bloody shytes!

Idiotboy... Sometimes the best advice you can get is the advice you dont want to hear!

You want advice? take it with good grace... if its not what you want to hear then maybe just bloody maybe the person offering it is just trying to get you to be bloody realistic with it think about it and do the job right the first time cause idiotboy theres rarely a second chance if that persons right and youre wrong!.. But hey ignore me and go right along friggin around maybe it will be okay listen to the panderers and people who have no love of boats listen to the oohhs and ahhs pats on the backs and other shyte from those who dont have a bloody clue and dont offer any real advice go right ahead...

Idiot

(hey! At least I didnt start swearing at him cause he didnt like my advice I mean I could have really said what I thought and pulled no punches!! But I was controlled and just called him an idiot... which if he doesnt at least get the shyte off the bloody bilges and get down to bare wood so he can SEE the wood he proves he is)

It was only AFTER my initial post that idiotboy objected to that he stated... So suddenly hes got some good freinds that are capable boat builders and restorers?? So were now meant to be bloody mind readers as well? Why didnt idiot boy say that in the first place? And if its so why the hell ask for advice help and assistance here! hes already got expert advice!... I made spiteful comments? WHERE? If I did my apologies if however all I did was to offer advice and opinion one of which you asked for the other Im entitled to then you owe me an apology for the "wanker" comment :mad:You say I should get my ducks in a row? Fine no problems BUT let me suggest you stop pissin in everyones pockets idiotboy... why didnt you say you have good freinds who were capable boatbuilders and restorers when you made the comments about not knowing what your doing? That would have helped with the responses... idiot

And where does idiotboy say anything about the boat being a "goer" Steve? Id suggest your talking about his comments here on the first post right?...



Well scuse me... But where does he state that he or his mates have fixed it so its a proper goer so theyve taken the motor/s out checked it them over repaired parts replaced etc...ooh thats right NOWHERE!!... oops the pic of the bilge sans motor tells us that hes done the motor up a treat doesnt it of course it does silly me! Just because they managed to get the motor running enough to get them to their slip to do the work doesnt mean that the bloody motors been fixed or even looked at by someone who has a clue... or does it?

What other forums has he posted to?... and what other coments has he gained from them that could be negative?... he certainly hasnt posted to Woodenboat.com's forums which would have to be the most respected forum on the internet for woodenboat builders restorers and designers (lets not get into the "bilge" forum section here thats a different kettle of fish entirely!!) and should have been one of the first places he should have posted his questions on... gawd I could just imagine his sookylala attitude to Bob Cleek or Dave Fleming when they tell him the same as I did only harsher... he thinks mine are bad try "FUGGEDABOUDIT" for a response!... but the helps there if he chooses to listen to it...

Okay one last bit of advice idiotboy? go to http://www.woodenboat.com then click on forums its down the right hand side of the page... then go to this thread in the "building and repair" forums http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/vbulle...ad.php?t=48786 a fella named Jim Hillman and others have gathered a wealth of information together from over the years posted by KNOWLEDGABLE PEOPLE like oohh I dont know lets say... boatbuilders (large and small), boat restorers (large and small), naval archetects designers (all sorts of designs) naval surveyors ferrymen sailors fishermen powerboaters people who own and build and use woodenboats of all discriptions and ages... you know that sort of people knowledgable professional experienced people... then just click the highlighted links and you go to a page that has all the info on many issues related to woodenboats... then if the answer to your questions isnt there then by all means post a question in the building and repair or misc boat related forums and you will get measured intelligent knowledgable responses from people all over the world... for free!!... mmm but then again you will be asking for advice wont you? and maybe they will also give it and then you will chuck a sookielala like you have here and then you will get a response like you have here... mmm so maybe in the words of Bob Cleek lets just FUGGEDABOUDIT!!

sigh all right enough...
Idiotboy... I truely hope that you and your mates (all of them) can get Myrna back to her original state or even to a state where you can enjoy her for some years to come believe it or not I actually wish you the best... as Ive said before she is a beauty and could be once again

oops sorry didnt see you up there Gryphon...Thanks for the support and let me be the first to welcome to the forums... dont lurk!!

heres how i do it .slip it .degrease it. scrub it. [see shippy if you come across caulking ,dont pull at it] clean it throw it back in . scrape and heat gun it ,easy with a good one ie ,hot. prime it. paint it. all done easy should take about 60 hours now get to it and sister those ribs while your at it use plastic nylon you know that chopping board plastic stuff means you can sister the ribs without cutting holes in the decks,steaming laminating ext. and you can feed them from the keel and use silicone bronze fastenings only u water .

Originally Posted by ozwinner

The one on the right is saying, " see, now this is a deck, not a floor"

Al

no gues again its a cockpit :eek: sole

Hmmmm.... and here was I thinking we'd sorted that in April!

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Zed, close the thread, it's going nowhere.

That's a bit harsh!

viking's just come on board, and for reasons best known to himself, but I'd put down to inexperience round these parts, he's picked up three issues which have been dead for quite some time.

Why on earth does that justify closing a thread?

Myrna's still under restoration, and this is where the pics will get posted, so don't do that!


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I agree with midge - I don't quite follow what Viking is saying, but I would like the boys restoring Myrna to keep us up to date with their progress.

Yup the boats still being restored so please leave it open.

Originally Posted by bitingmidge

That's a bit harsh!

viking's just come on board, and for reasons best known to himself, but I'd put down to inexperience round these parts, he's picked up three issues which have been dead for quite some time.

Why on earth does that justify closing a thread?

Myrna's still under restoration, and this is where the pics will get posted, so don't do that!

yeh sorry shipmates first timer at forums should have looked at the date sorry

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No worries!

You've got nine posts now viking, so you'd be getting ready for a good old fashioned flogging next time you slip up I guess!

What species of viking dresses as a pirate anyway?

P (well you've got to get used to crossed threads round here fella!)

Originally Posted by bitingmidge

What species of viking dresses as a pirate anyway?

P (well you've got to get used to crossed threads round here fella!)

Crossed threads or cross dresser ???:eek::eek)

Did notice this - am I misunderstanding you Viking?

Originally Posted by viking

sister those ribs while your at it use plastic nylon you know that chopping board plastic stuff means you can sister the ribs without cutting holes in the decks,steaming laminating ext. and you can feed them from the keel and use silicone bronze fastenings only u water .

Are you suggesting sistering with plastic chopping board?

I suspect it is too flexible and tends to tear around fastenings.

And you wouldn't use 3/4" thick chopping board to sister a 2 z 3" rib.

I would suggest an experiment.

Take a piece of timber the size of the ribs in question and about 6ft long

Cut it in half.

Sister it together with the plastic chopping board each side and fasten.

Clamp one end to a workbench - ensure the chopping board sisters are vertical - not horizontal - and sit on the other end.

If the timber breaks first somewhere then it is a ripper method of doing a repair - but I think you will find the plasic bends very easily and tears around the fastenings.

If sistering you should use timber with a total cross section equal to the member in question. The overlap ON EACH SIDE of the damage needs to be a minimum of 10 times the thickness of the member.

If the member is glued to the suface of the hull the sisters can be too. If the the member is not then care should be taken to make sure the sister/s are glued to the member only. Use brown packaging tape on the hull to prevent accidental bonding.

Best Regards
Michael Storer

when a mate of mine put me on to this i said you have to be fing kiding :eek: then he went further with ribs they alwase break in sheer .
this plastic is well imposible to break in sheer and takes the turn of the bilge well .
:mad: with timber no choice but to cut holes in the deck and steam or laminate coming down from the top.
cut to the same size and warmed in the sun and belted in position we had ribs broken in many places up to 3 points in each one and about 14 ribs to sistr and sheer clamp, bilge, turn of bilge 6x12 stringers to get under:mad: .
2.5' x1 3/4' x5ft long and fastened with silicone bronze bellow/Dwl and s/s above/Dwl spoze you could use copper nail and rove the bloke we got it from said their was different grades we used the stiffest. seen and suveyed this boat since and she has held up well and needed no re chaulking im sold with this method
:confused: but its not for everone and still leaves a lump in my purest throat but its still working well and the the fastenings are still holding strong after 5 years
but their was a bit of trial and error as with any new technique
ended up doing it with bit and brace 4 doing em up festo bat drill didnt cut it and the s/s screws and bronze held like mad broke a few s/s and sil bronze.
itdidnt trust it so i did lump hammer research with wood and plastic plastic won especialy with a point load test it would bounce back and throw the lumpy back at yah

Hi Wild Dingo,
Sorry we didnt tell you about the cleaning of the bilge pre deck/sole/floor being laid (REMEMBER SKIFFF TERMS ONLY!!!!) I personally got real dirty cleaning the grease/sludge/god knows what was in the bilge. Had a Woolwich Marina employee (I wish I remembered his name top bloke) look at he cleaned out bilge for any probs/split ribs/repairs needed.
Not a great job and yes we do appreciate any help from the fiorum as previously stated we take her out for leisurely cruises and a spot of fishing... (we will get above 1000 rpm one day)
We may be doing a half assed job but I personally invite you to inspect and be our paid in beer supervisor for a day (cruise included) and let us know what could be done now/better as we really are skiffys call me on 0414 763285 to organise an inspection.....PS open invitation to all experienced boat people on how not to ..hmmm F her up!!!!