Thread: Boat framing - Tas Oak or Durian ??

It's only a Hartley - go chop up some pallets

Richard

Aberdeen
Durian has been used in boatbuildin in Malaysia and through that region for donkeys years... Kapur has also been used throughout the Indo region for boat buildin

I recall a boat builder mate from the states once telling me "Shane, if all you got boy is what you got then go build a boat cause if your gonna wait for the right perfect most commonly used timbers in your area to fall into yer lap you'll probably never build one" now he ended that with another comment "Just member boy some timber just doesnt like water an others like it too much find out what they are then dont use em where the water can get at em" all good advice

In this we were talking about Tuart a timber used in boatbuilding years ago... but for frames not for planks as I had initially wanted to use them on sourcing info on Tuart I reverted to the more common used planking material Jarrah or Karri... but then got side tracked and am still buggarizin around

So thing is to find out what timber can be used or has been used and then use it

Both those timbers have been used

Hey Richard,
At least I might get this one in the water before sixpence

Originally Posted by Daddles

It's only a Hartley - go chop up some pallets

Richard

Good thinking Wild Dingo
I pondered on that sort of thing last night after speaking with a chap in QLD who is only using standard (basically knot free) pine for a similar boat. After all with modern expoxies these days, the frames in most cases are only to help shape the boat..... once encapsulated one could use almost anything I guess.

Lightweight stuff is probably okay if I was going to sail and race the little thing but will only be using it to kill time when I retire - not to mention keep me off the streets and down the shed in the mean time. The wife reckons at least she knows where I am when I'm building boats

I wonder what NOAH used on the Ark?

Thanks mate
Aberdeen

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Aberdeen
Durian has been used in boatbuildin in Malaysia and through that region for donkeys years... Kapur has also been used throughout the Indo region for boat buildin

I recall a boat builder mate from the states once telling me "Shane, if all you got boy is what you got then go build a boat cause if your gonna wait for the right perfect most commonly used timbers in your area to fall into yer lap you'll probably never build one" now he ended that with another comment "Just member boy some timber just doesnt like water an others like it too much find out what they are then dont use em where the water can get at em" all good advice

In this we were talking about Tuart a timber used in boatbuilding years ago... but for frames not for planks as I had initially wanted to use them on sourcing info on Tuart I reverted to the more common used planking material Jarrah or Karri... but then got side tracked and am still buggarizin around

So thing is to find out what timber can be used or has been used and then use it

Both those timbers have been used

Meranti was used many years back for framing and I think that is still available at a reasonable price. Looks like a few phone calls today to price the options. Probably a bit lighter than Tas Oak or Durian...... will keep me out of mischief checking it all out.....

Originally Posted by Aberdeen

I wonder what NOAH used on the Ark?

Thanks mate
Aberdeen

Cedars of Lebanon, mate

Nice to see someone knows their history !

Originally Posted by Aberdeen

I wonder what NOAH used on the Ark?

Sorry about this, but I thought somebody might like a copy of 'The Illustrated Builder's Guide' by Giulio Romano.



Also, I checked the original instructions. It was Gopher Wood (whatever that is?)

Probably wood that had been cut down and sized by gophers? )

I'm more worried about the wedding tackle of the bloke with the saw.

The OH&S blokes would have a fit about using a two-person saw one-handed in the buff. At very least he needs to wear proper boots and a dust mask!!!!

They were tough times with even tougher blokes !
No airconditioning so probably the way to go to keep cool.......
I'd be more worried about the other 2 blokes with the axes!!!

Modern OH&S has gone overboard, so to speak, anyway.... back to basics

I reckon Tas Oak is a great option for what you want, some of the lighter colour stuff is pretty light as well. Meranti and Durian, I wouldn't trust as far as rot goes.
Tas Oak all the way
Scotty

Scotty
Thanks for the re-assurance.....
I have been wearing the net out for the past few days on this subject... Tas Oak didn't seem to get much of a mention when it came to boats... only when I put in it's Botanical names did I find lots of references to it ! Seems on old time option that is quite suitable after all....

I am now at peace and have lots of it I picked up last night..... Was further surprised to find out it is also called 'Messmate', a timber I recall as being suitable..... Ah for the old days and the even older traditional boat builders...... knowledge I feel that is slowly deminishing..... keep the tradition alive !

Oak, Tasmanian (see Alpine Ash &/or Mountain Ash &/or Messmate)
Common Name(s) : Australian Ash, Victorian Ash, Tasmanian Oak
Messmate (Eucalyptus obliqua) , also called Messmate Stringybark, grows naturally in parts of Victoria and Tasmania, and less widely in South Australia, the tablelands of NSW and southern Queensland. Most of the timber of this species on the market is either old growth (if from Tasmania, it may be sold on the mainland as 'Tasmanian Oak').

The timber is pale brown with straight grain and distinct growth rings. Density 600 to 800 kg m-3. Used for engineering and building construction, marinecraft, flooring, architraves, furniture, plywood and pulp. Main Australian species which is providing sawn timber from plantations. Sold as Tasmanian Oak

Aberdeen

Hi Aberdeen

I did some boat building courses at Meadowbank Tafe a couple of years ago and one of the modules was on boat building timbers. There were handouts from Forestry Commission - the main timber recommended for frames was Spotted Gum

Regards

Peter