Thread: Epoxy protection & gloves

Instant apology Razgo ... I wasn't laughing at what you said ... it is good and useful information.

The boys above had got a bit sidetracked and had been talking homebrew beer - and I was glad to see you bring the conversation back to the real topic.

But I was amused by the quick change in topic.

Best wishes
Michael

Vinyl gloves are definitely the go for epoxy, but gloves ain't necessarily gloves. I've found Chux to be slightly larger and conform better than the other big seller.

Its all good . I thought it must be something to do with the whole thread. I forgot to mention the brand name i have been using, which is Mcneils surgical vinyl powderfree.

Originally Posted by Razgo

Great thread. I use vinyl gloves and only pay $4.50 box of 100's. They don't conform like nitrile but they do the job well and cost far less.

I paid $15 for mine at a discount chemist chain in Adelaide.
vs about $7/100 for latex.
Where did you get yours so cheap?
cheers
Alan J.

I get them through this medical company http://www.medsurg.com.au/

I am always buying medical supplies so i get delivery which i think is about $5.00 per delivery. If you live in Brisbane I am pretty sure you can just go in and pick them up. I have an account but when i first started using them i was simply paying by credit card over the phone. Yes they sell to the general public as well.

I know the brand says medsure http://www.medsurg.com.au/_products/...oves-2512.aspx

the name medsure is their own branding so might be worth checking if their brand is cheaper.

their is also anothe medical supply company i use and you can compare prices is intouch http://www.intouchdirect.com.au/healthcare/health.htm

they do over the phone orders too.


If any one in Brisbane here wants these gloves but do't use enough to warrent paying delivery or whatever i can order extra when i buy if you want to drop by and pick them up.

I care for my wife 24/7 which is why i buy direct from medical companies. usually a lot cheaper but not always for some things.

I too use vinyl .. now used to use the latex.. hated the smell (I'll leave that alone... the home brewing got far enough off track! LOL)

But I took the advice of someone and went with the powder free ones (had always got the powdered ones before) and as per advice they are SOOOOOO much easier to put on and remove when done (gloves here guys... keep on track)

I may be able to source these quite cheap (not as cheap as the last carton I got...... free but will find out and let everyone know (for those in Adelaide)

I was told a while ago that all powdered gloves were to be fased out becaue of the health risks involved. an example for info http://www.dentalindia.com/risky.html

and another god source http://www.kchealthcare.com/LrnFAQsQandA.asp?id=911&CategoryName=Medical%20Glo ves%20-%20Powder-Associated%20Issues%20-%20History%20of%20Glove%20Powder


how this applies to powdered vinyl i don't know but i avoid powdered glove myself.

• Powder is an irritant that can dry hands and macerate the skin.
• Powder interferes with optimal wound healing and reduces resilience and strength of repaired tissue
• Powder increases and prolongs inflammation by several mechanisms
• Powder increases the risk of infection
• Powder can irritate the respiratory mucosa and induce respiratory tract reactions.
• Powder can reduce resistance to infection by interfering with the body’s local defenses.
• Powder may act as a carrier, aerosolizing natural rubber latex proteins bound to its surface.
• Aerosolized natural rubber latex protein bound to powder can be inhaled and cause reactions in latex allergic individuals.
• Aerosolized glove powder may carry bacteria, viruses and fungi.
• Natural rubber latex proteins can bind to powder, be aerosolized, and contaminate surgical tissues, instrument trays, drapes, sponges, suture material, needles, instruments and equipment.
• Powder left behind in wound sites can cause inflammation, promote infection, increase scarring, induce adhesions, produce intestinal obstruction and cause pelvic pain and infertility.
• Powder can cause glove starch peritonitis after cholecystectomy, appendectomy
• Intraperitoneal dialysis procedures contaminated with glove powder can result in severe granulomatosis and dense adhesions.
• Powder can cause foreign body reactions resulting in granulomas and adhesions after surgery.
• Powder has been implicated in the misdiagnosis of carcinoma.

Just seeing this thread again reminded me that I was using some Tough task nitrile gloves from a new box and they did not seem as strong anymore, they seemed to hole pretty easily.

Cheers
Michael

Razgo,

It sounds like powdered gloves will be phased out of surgery situations. A lot of the problems might be because of the length of time of exposure in an operating theatre, day in and day out.

Our "patients" are probably not as vulnerable to post operative complications!!!


MIK

Yes your right, it's probably more to do with fasing them out of the health care sector. However I think it's worht noting why and the implications it may have even if only used in woodworking conditions or general uage outside of the health care sector.

It's one of those things you just have to self monitor i guess and be aware of potential risk with powder.

can never have enough info just in case

Originally Posted by b.o.a.t.

Don't know if anyone else thinks so, but I think the matter of protecting oneself from epoxy is worthy of a thread.

Have recently switched from latex to vinyl disposables because I felt the latex were not robust enough, nor keeping the epoxy off my skin. Vinyl seems to do a much better job of the latter, & are far more resistant to puncture & tearing.

The link Andrew provided in the "Glue for strip canoe" thread -
http://www.ansellchemsafe.com/Assets...%20Website.pdf - naturally promotes Ansell's top-of-the-line barrier gloves. Anyone able to access the original data to see just how much further behind vinyl or latex gloves were ?

What are others using ? Why?

cheers
AJ

AJ and others, I have a great solution. I bought boxes of 100 nitrile disposable examination gloves (eeeew....makes you wonder what they are really for......eeeeeeeeeeew) from a local farm supplies place. Cheap! Made for chemical resistance, and they are certainly more robust than latex gloves in terms of tearing. Not to say that they won't give way after heavy or prolonged use, but it's mighty convenient to be able to throw them away and just slip on another one whenever you like.

Michael

How cheap? what did you pay and who from? I pay $9.21 Protex Nitrile box of 100's.

Originally Posted by Razgo

How cheap? what did you pay and who from? I pay $9.21 Protex Nitrile box of 100's.

They were $15 per box + GST. Box contains 100 gloves. Nice thing about it is that they come in Extra Large, perfect for my dinner plate sized hands. I got them in Perth from a place called the Farm Shop. Phone in Perth 08 9274 0455

BOC distributes them, so they shouldn't be too tough to source no matter where you are!

Cheers,
Michael

That is expensive compared to $9.21 inc GST. These come in extra large too which is good. If you normally wear large in latex then you basically have to get extra large in nitrile because of the tighter fit.

I think there may be a price increase some time soon though with the aussie dollar going up and down like a yoyo lately.