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Thread: Jubilee class restoration
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5th July 2009, 08:19 PM #1
Jubilee class restoration
Is anyone in a position to offer an opinion of the Jubilee class? They are a 5.4 metre carvel boat, although modern ones are FG. I have a possible opportunity to buy one of interesting provenance, dating to 1938. It needs some frames and general work (this probably means a rebuild), but my issue is in what happens then....carvel, mooring,,cost etc.
Is it kosher to 'glass a historic boat so it can be stored dry???
Please pardon my ignorance.
Rob
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this sounds interesting Rob do you have any pics ?
just had a quick look on the tinternet and this was all i found
The Jubilee is an 18', open displacement yacht for a three or four person crew. Designed in 1935 as a one design class, the Jubilee will handle almost any conditions - and accordingly there is energetic competition and the local, State and national levels. While the majority of Jubilees are sailed in Victoria, a few boats are located in the other states.
Jubilee Boat Register
Click Here to go to the latest version of the Register. Please Contact Us if you have updates on Jubilee ownership, location or state of restoration.
Jubilee Class Specifications
Overall Length 5.46 m. Length at Waterline 4.87 m. Draft 0.41 m. Construction Fibreglass or Wood Racing Crew No More than Four Jubilee Class History
1934 Storms hit Port Phillip Bay causing severe damage to the sailing fleets on the Bay 1935 J A Linacre, Commodore of Royal Brighton Yacht Club, inspires the design of a One Design Yacht, that was both moderately priced and suitable to withstand heavy seas and hard weather.
W D Higgins & Charles Peel develop the plans 1938 One Design Class Rules adopted 1967 The last timber Jubilee built construction replaced by Fibreglass 1997 New Mould Created - 3 boats built 2001 Jubilee mould now owned by Jubilee Yacht Association (Vic)
Contact Us if you would like to buy or build a Jubilee
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6th July 2009, 06:21 AM #3
My data base shows a finely shaped little one design, which could be easily trailered.
Her construction method (carvel) wouldn't lend well to a 'glass sheathing. It could be done, but to make it successful (eliminate the risk of sheering the sheathing) it would have to be a fairly heavy 'glass job, which would burden the yacht with a good bit of weight, none of which is good for the boat.
With her structure repaired and well caulked, she should be leak free, though carvel builds, don't like trailer life too much. They need to have a reasonably constant moisture content in the planks to stay water tight. The wet/dry cycling of moisture content of a trailered boat, leads to leaks in most carvel builds.
Check out the stem and backbone on this boat, also the hood ends of the planks for rot, large checks, splits, etc. This is in addition to solid fasteners at the frames and planking. Boats of this size are easily "over pounded" during caulking, which can damage planking seams. Look for work hardened seams too.
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6th July 2009, 10:24 AM #4
Jubes are great little boats. Extremely tough.
They were built to replace the Port Phillip sailing fleets after a huge storm destroyed most of the yachts.
MIK
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6th July 2009, 01:01 PM #5
I can arrange a mooring over here if you like Rob, they tell us there will be water in the lower lake area this summer. I'll even keep an eye on her for free
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6th July 2009, 02:57 PM #6
Thanks very much Par Richard, Mik and Mike. The boat has a nice story which sort of involves my story, and it was very appealing, but I don't think I can justify a mooring for such a small boat, when I'm building a trailerable one of the same length.
Glassing the hull has potential problems as Par expressed, and it would not be a very respectful thing to do to such an old boat, I think. If I stored her dry, she'd get very little use.
Lovely class of boat though- and this one would have been very cheap, but the sale has to be concluded in the next few days.
Now Mike, if you could bring some of that SA water over to my bit of Victoria, I could float her here. That sort of generosity has been going on for decades in one way or another!
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6th July 2009, 04:44 PM #7
But usually without asking so politely!
Thus the yells between yachtsmen of "Water" ... "WATER"
"WATER"
MIK
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6th July 2009, 04:58 PM #8
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6th July 2009, 05:13 PM #9
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6th July 2009, 09:05 PM #10
I sympathize Richard. I'm one of many Victorians who believe that our use of the Murray must be completely re-evaluated to save the entire system, even at the expense of food production.
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7th July 2009, 11:52 AM #11
For once, I'm not cranky with the Victorians **pause for shocked gasp**, it's the New South Welsh and the Queenslanders who have the most to asnwer for, particularly in the current times. Not that I'm letting anyone else off the hook either, you ought to hear my old man talk about the wine industry and the damage that did to horticultural practices along the river, and he was talking about that back in the days of lots of water in the river. His point concerns the dumbing down of growers and the contraints on crop types demanded by the wineries. The river is stuffed because big businesses are greedy and short sighted about the way they make money ... which is the biggest impediment to fixing the problems now. Sadly, we'll now need horrendous rains for some time simply to fill the back waters and floodplains, that's before you start doing any good to the river and the lower lakes?
And what's this got to do with the Jubilees?
THEY AREN'T FITTED WITH FOUR WHEEL DRIVE!
Hummphhh!
Sorry for the hijack. Can we have some more pictures of the boats please?
Richard
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7th July 2009, 02:47 PM #12
Good on you Richard.
Here is a link for you of some pics. I'm sorry I won't be buying one....
http://www.jubileeyacht.org.au/index...006/Paul-Baker
As to the highjack, I sort of asked for it, making light of such a crucial issue, and I knew I'd get a rise from someone, since so many of the forum contributors hail from your end of the disaster, sorry, river. It's good to provide a platform for issues that effect us, as long as no-one gets too upset in the process!
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12th July 2009, 08:43 PM #13New Member
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G'day Rob
Just a note on the Jubilee boats, my Great Grandfather and Grandfather built several of them at Palm Beach N.S.W (around 1930's). I have seen one restored by a fella from around the Balmain area called Bob Ellis, he is with the Wooden boat association.
Mat G
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12th July 2009, 08:55 PM #14
Thanks for that Mat; nice to hear a family-related story. Sounds like you should build one!!
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