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4th April 2010, 08:35 PM #151Senior Member
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Thanks! Im very happy with it. The hard part now is getting the thousand little things done.
One thing that i think lets all this down is the look of the mast and boom, they're a bit corroded on the surface. I would love a timber mast and boom but that may be a little over my head atm.
I forgot a picture
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5th April 2010, 08:21 PM #154Senior Member
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If i did want to go down the timber mast/boom, where would be a good place to get some information?
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5th April 2010, 08:55 PM #155
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5th April 2010, 09:14 PM #156Senior Member
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I thought there may have been a book or something. Silly me.....
I did get a bit of info from Mik about a timber boom so thats not a problem, thats easy to build.
Any ideas on where to start? I have no idea.
Would a timber mast be worth all the work on this boat? It would look good though
Ace
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5th April 2010, 09:38 PM #157
There's no 'all the work' to it. Sure, there's a fair amount of mucking about and some classic traps (many of which are promoted as 'good techniques' on the internet )... but did you just rough sand the old girl and splash on some house paint? No, of course not. You were able to repaint her, you'll be able to make a mast.
However, as I suggested earlier, get her on the water first, then make your wooden mast and boom at your leisure. Why? Because you already have a working mast and boom so enjoy her while building the 'nice' bits.
Richard
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5th April 2010, 09:46 PM #158Senior Member
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However, as I suggested earlier, get her on the water first, then make your wooden mast and boom at your leisure. Why? Because you already have a working mast and boom so enjoy her while building the 'nice' bits.
Lets say i have plenty of time and i wanted to start one now (not the case though) what things should i be looking at?
Ace
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5th April 2010, 10:15 PM #159
A set of plans for your mast and booms.
Beer.
A big stick.
Beer.
Some sharp destructive implements.
Beer.
Sandpaper
Lots of beer.
Varnish
Beer
Oregon used to be the timber of choice. To be honest, I haven't followed recent discussions to comment on what people are using now. It probably depends on whether you want to make a hollow mast or not.
For a basic, solid wooden mast, you get your plank, cut it in two and then glue the two halves together with the grain in each piece going in opposite directions - this helps prevent warping. A boom or spar you just do with one piece of wood.
With your plane/thicknesser, make it square to the largest dimension (masts and booms taper).
Referring to your plans, shape it to the right tapers - it's still square in cross section.
Using a spar guage - basically two guide pins that run either side of your mast with two pencils/scribes between them set at the 'magic' distance - so using your spar guage, you mark two lines down each face, parrallel to the sides.
Using your plane, you knock off the corners down to those lines leaving your mast octagonal in cross section.
Using your plane, knock off the remaining corners and shape it to make your mast round.
Using sand paper, sand it smooth.
Varnish.
Mount on boat.
Stand back and bask in the admiring stares.
If you think it sounds like a lot of work, put down the steps you just went through repainting your boat
There are also square masts, square hollow masts (basically a box) and round, hollow masts made out of staves (often referred to as birdsmouth masts due to the shape of the staves).
If you trawl the forum, you'll find most of these methods described ... I hope, I've certainly read about them from time to time.
Richard
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6th April 2010, 02:00 PM #160Senior Member
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A set of plans for your mast and booms
I will be using the rigging from the old mast and refitting it to the new eventually. I still cant believe how much rigging is in general. Same as anything to do with aviation, marine or military....add 50% and then sum to the price. I would like to save some cash .
Cheers
Ace
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6th April 2010, 05:51 PM #161
Others will have to guide you on this Ace, but you should be able to get mast and boom plans from the NS14 boys. I doubt it's simply a case of copying the aluminium.
Richard
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7th April 2010, 12:31 AM #162
Hoop pine seems to be the favoured timber; as it is plantation-grown here in Oz, it's also a native plant so it grows well (depending on where you grow it ;), and has similar physical characteristics to oregon (strength, strength-to-weight, stiffness, etc.); and glues very well. Some high-grade plywoods are made from it - but I'm not suggesting making a mast out of plywood (although some people here might think I would at least try it, I suspect ;) My 'Duck sprit-rig mast and boom, and Goat mast and spars, are being made of this stuff.
BoatCraft Pacific in Brisbane sells it in various cross-sectional dimensions , and maybe Trend Timbers in Windsor, NSW. And no doubt others, but BoatCraft is the one that I know about because I've bought said wood from them. For the 'Duck and Goat masts, the timber specified is 12 mm thick - for building hollow masts, that is. For birdsmouth masts, you'll need thicker staves - like Daddles, I recommend that you search this forum for 'birdmouth' and 'mast' (without the quotes). DO NOT be tempted to make it out of western red cedar or paulownia (or jarrah at the other extreme ;) - that will end in tears, and well before bedtime at that.
Good luck :).
Cheers,
Alex.
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7th April 2010, 12:38 AM #163
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9th April 2010, 08:04 PM #164
Rob's just put up a photo essay on making his mast
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f169/b...ml#post1137234
Richard
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13th November 2010, 07:36 PM #165Senior Member
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After i was reminded today down at the club, i thought i better update this thread.
After all the work refinishing the boat, rebuilding a trailer and building a beach dolley.....the NS has sailed!
As usual, it will require some adjustments but all i can say is that im very happy with it.
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