Never play scrabble with a yachty.

**soundman** · 5th March 2008, 11:30 PM

I've been getting into this boat talk thing, well you have to if you want to read anything remotely sail related.

I have come to conclusion that you couldnt win at scrabble against anybody who knows their sail terminology.

There are soo many words, krikey jack

how many words are there for a piece of rope?

some of the words, dont sound like they are reel words at all.

I recon som old salt was sick of a young fella asking questions so he just made up the words.

How many words are there..... show me them all and let me know the worst!

VANG...... is this a real word........is it the noise a rubish bin lid makes when you drop it.....does it belong in an action comic......or is it a sailing component....... what would it score in scrabble.

I'm sure someone knows.

cheers

**soundman** · 5th March 2008, 11:41 PM

How about BOOM VANG......isnt that out of Batman.

What about if you spell it backwards, is GNAV a word, or only in a backwards paralell dimension.

cheers

**journeyman Mick** · 6th March 2008, 12:00 AM

Soundman
a boom on old square riggers was a cross tree. In Dutch a tree is a boom (pronounced bohm). In Dutch to "vang" (pronounced fung) means to catch.

Mick

**bitingmidge** · 6th March 2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by soundman

Ihow many words are there for a piece of rope?

In marine terminology Soundy, there's only one piece of rope on a boat, and that's the bit that hangs from the ship's bell.

Thought you needed to know that.

P

**soundman** · 6th March 2008, 12:12 AM

I had heard that one.

I had heard ther is also suposed to be another "rope: somewhere....MMMMGHH.....MMMMMGGGH......I'll wait to hear back from long term memory.

Of thats right...... the pieces of stuff you tow the dingy out the back with I think.

cheers

**joe greiner** · 6th March 2008, 12:53 AM

Rope: verboten. Line: OK.

I have a copy of this around here someplace, but can't find it now. Here's a sample:
http://www.moleskinerie.com/2004/03/...gging_of_.html

Joe

**kekemo** · 6th March 2008, 02:15 AM

Vang....one of two guy ropes from the end of a gaff to the deck....used to steady the gaff!

Yes its listed in the offical words for "Scrabble" & just to make this interesting your points value is
V=4 points
A=1
N=1
G=2

that is of course if your only scoring from blank spaces!

So...take you pick of witch/which two ropes...or leave it standing in the corner & lean on your shovel..... agh.ha...there's the english language for you!

Cheers....KEKEMO

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**Theodor** · 6th March 2008, 12:49 PM

I really recommend reading Sailing for Dummies or some other sailing introductory book before going any further. Not only will you have such terms explained to you, but you might even learn how to use them properly in a sentence!! (Don't look at me yet, as I haven't tried)

**Boatmik** · 6th March 2008, 01:07 PM

Midge,

I was reading some Francis Herreshoff a couple of weeks ago as I went through all my boat books getting ready to sell almost all of them.

Anyway - he gave a good 10 or 15 ropes that might be on a boat.

The bell rope was one of them.

The only ones I remember were
Foot Rope
Bolt Rope (we all know that one)

And I did know one that wasn't on his list, the
Bull Rope.

MIK

**petersemple** · 6th March 2008, 01:36 PM

It's OK Soundman. As long as you're not going to actually talk to someone else about the lines, I have found "the one that ties off there, feeds through those blocks there, and belays to a pin about there..." to be sufficient

ANything else is just showing off

peter

**bitingmidge** · 6th March 2008, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by soundman

IOf thats right...... the pieces of stuff you tow the dingy out the back with I think.

Nuh. That's a painter.

Originally Posted by Boatmik

Foot Rope
Bolt Rope (we all know that one)

And I did know one that wasn't on his list, the
Bull Rope.

First two don't count I reckon, because they are completely enclosed and not lines in the true sense.

Tell us about a Bull Rope.

P

**PAR** · 6th March 2008, 04:31 PM

A bull rope is the necklace my ex-wife always had around her neck . . .

**soundman** · 6th March 2008, 09:06 PM

I believe that VANG is a not uncommon veitnamese family name.

From what I gather a VANG may be made of rope, but it could just as easly be steel or hydraulic.

If you decided you didnt like it and threw it overbaord, but the wind bley it back in your face it would be a VANGARANG.

(any fams of Pan out there)

back on the subject of rope.
My understanding is, all those tensile, twined, fabric members on a boat are manufactured from rope, but aren't in fact ropeS .

cheers

**Boatmik** · 6th March 2008, 09:09 PM

hahaha - nice to have you back PAR.

Midge - if LFH says that they are ropes ... they are ropes!!! Sorry - he is Mohammed Ali and you are Cecil Cruikshanks Jr (ie no-one that anyone has heard of).

(Cecil - if you exist and are reading this my utmost apologies)

He did quote foot ropes as those hanging below the yards of a square rigger for your feet - so not enclosed. So wasn't referring to the bolt rope along the foot of a sail.

And trad bolt ropes are not parcelled up with sail cloth. And some modern ones are not either.

So where's your big city thinking now, fella!

MIK

**soundman** · 6th March 2008, 09:27 PM

AHHH... I thaught it was only, truly a painter if it belonged to the dingy.

there might also be "old rope" aboard the boat, that has not yet been converted into oakum..

cheers

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