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    Default Simmons Sea Skiffs

    On another forum there are several members from down under building these hulls. Anyone on this forum doing so?

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    Howdy,

    Not that I know of.

    1/ do you have a link

    2/ are you building one or have one - what do you think about them?

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    1/ do you have a link
    http://www.simmonsseaskiff.com/
    http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_sss_underconstruction.html

    Cheers,

    P

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    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=38153

    Actually at the bottom of the page, which I never sroll down that far I also found this link. Yes I have given up on most of the technical parts of the WBF since the board lacks even some limited moderating for it to ever be much more than just a time killer. I continue to build these and have one almost completed now in the paint stage. I have lost track of a couple of builders from down under that was in the inital stage of building. I think the boat and its plans offer a nice alternative for a runabout, requiring a small "iron Jib" for people looking for a neat one off design, without dealing with all of that glasswork for some building methods.

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    The only one I know of building at the moment is one by Zootog in Perth.

    /Users/peter/Desktop/seaskiff.JPG

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    Been doing another 22 along side of another hull, and so yesterday was transfer day for swapping ends. I did this one with the transom facing outside, my main door and did not want to mess up the fresh paint on the hull after it was done. It required some special tools, . The boat is ready for hull paint this week. It will have the center console arrangment but its not set in place. A point of note for anyone contemplating the larger hull. I left out the foward second main deck beam and this gives the foward part of the boat 18" inches more of deck space inside. The larger models had hatches for access since the overall running fore and aft length 66 inches. Thats too much to crawl foward underneath of the bow.






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    mmm do I or dont I?

    Mike... its great to see your still going at this one and its near done looking bloody good as is your usual

    I do have a question though... if I may without getting my head bitten of for askin that is... the question is as follows

    Its my understanding that when doing the scarf joints or butt joints for that matter the best method of doing them is to stagger the butts and scarfs along the length of the hull to avoid the scarfs and butts being too close together this if something goes haywire would as I understand it lead to the whole hull failing so to your pictures and my question

    In the first pic as can be seen you have staggered the joins however they appear very close together like a small step ladder no great distance between each join from one plank to the other

    In the final pic the top two planks the two butts scarfs joins are one on top of the other with no distance between them

    So given what Ive been taught that the joins butts scarfs should be placed some distance apart along the length of the hull why are yours so close together?

    Now mate I know weve had our differences of late and I hope we can put them aside... Im seriously interested to know the answer to this as its not what I expected or had been led to believe is the proper method... so Im asking you to please respond to this and advize me

    Cheers
    Shane
    Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!


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    The glued laps are four inches. The top plank is also lapped 1 1/4" over the plank under it. The top plank also is sandwiched between the inwale which is under the covering boards which is 1 1/4" and runs the entire length of the hull sides. The laminated rub rail on the outside, which also runs the length of the hull and is 1 1/4 wide and is 7/8" thick. These two components sandwich the top plank and the scarfs also. Also to add insult to injury, there is also the ribs in the hull sides and one also is fastened through the long scarf, which is also a very acceptable practice. In traditonal construction, the butt blocks are normally between structual parts such as frames or ribs. The actual net difference of open plank area amounts to about 2 inches. If that scarf becomes a problem, you have a lot more of an issue than that.

    The boat is upside down. SO the picture stinks. The top plank on the high sides is the leftover piece that ends up after cutting all of the other planks starting from each side of scarfed plywood sheets. The bow area is the narrow part of the deminisions that makes up the wider width of the planks at the bow that tapers to the narrower width at the stern.



    edited to add that please remember that this arrogant arss does a lot of things that others find a bit, may i say weird and out in left field. So remember its best that you use caution when following anything that I may suggest, imply, or otherwise view as being normal. Its your life, so do proceed with caution.

    [whom, I wonder if thats okay for legalistic tyrants]


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    Cheers Mike that explains it for me

    By being wedged and held within the other parts takes the risk out of the lack of distance sounds right to me

    Hope you had a great Chrissy and New Year mate
    Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!


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