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    You've obviously thought a lot about this, and your current thinking keeps lots of options open, but the clincher for me is that you think it'll be useful as a rower while your daughter might take delight in the times spent with her now. They grow so fast and any positive moments with an eight year old are worth weeks with her later...I mean there is so much to be gained now spending time with her and what could be more fun than mucking about with dad and a pair of oars (until Dad wants to learn to sail with her...) Budget thoughts make sense too. You have a hull that will be a great powered fishing craft- Honkers has shown us that, but can be a rower now and the option of sail may come later and think of the extra shed you'll have!! So much more space to get cross in

    In two years you'll have one craft that you can row, motor, paddle or sail...and another couple being crafted in the shed....plus Redback and the dreaded Black Dog (which by then will just be a delight like all the others). Spoilt for choice I reckon.
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    Thanks Rob. The main things were use and maintaining options, I don't think this route closes any options and I get to use her earlier. Let's assume that I go straight for the full sailing option - this route doesn't affect that and allows me to use her while the sailing kit is being put together ... I hope.

    As for family trips, I'm thinking Jan, my son (who's 17), my daughter, my dog and me, so she'll be a full boat, not something any of the other boats could look at.

    Richard

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    All makes sense to me Daddles.

    Don't think you even need to seal down a centre case cap at rowing speed there should not be much splash and it'll be easier to remove down the track. Perhaps incorporate a removable or adjustable thwart in it.
    Easy for me to make suggestions from the lounge room chair.

    Oh and you will need two sets of oars for both you and Jan......just make sure you are forward.

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    Hi Daddles
    Sounds like a great idea to get the boat on the water to use with the family
    Years ago I built a "Lark" dinghy which was rowable and sailable and I just made a plug to sit in the centreboard slot held down with a bit of shockcard. occaisonly had a bit of seepage but nothing to worry about. Bottom of slot stayed open. I would be inclined to get the rudder pintles bolted in before glueing the seat, bolts with big washers and nylox and sealant as you know much stronger than screws and the things have to be bought sometime anyway.
    I am surprised a boat that small needs a steel centerboard. That is a lot of weight to be hauling about. would it be possible to get the same effect with a plywood board and a couple of sandbags? Then you wont have all that weight on days when you are get to the water and there is no wind you can easy say "bugger it, Im going for a row"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomtre View Post
    Hi Daddles
    Sounds like a great idea to get the boat on the water to use with the family
    Ta mate.

    Years ago I built a "Lark" dinghy which was rowable and sailable and I just made a plug to sit in the centreboard slot held down with a bit of shockcard. occaisonly had a bit of seepage but nothing to worry about. Bottom of slot stayed open. I would be inclined to get the rudder pintles bolted in before glueing the seat, bolts with big washers and nylox and sealant as you know much stronger than screws and the things have to be bought sometime anyway.
    Redback's got an open dagger board slot and I've had to make two plugs for hers ... coz I lost the first one - maybe that's why I'm keen not to have a loose one for this boat. A large part of her early life at least will be rowing only - even if I went straight to sail I couldn't afford sails for a goodly length of time. I thought of sealing it simply because I don't like unsealed things but maybe just screwing it down will be plenty.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomtre View Post
    I am surprised a boat that small needs a steel centerboard. That is a lot of weight to be hauling about. would it be possible to get the same effect with a plywood board and a couple of sandbags? Then you wont have all that weight on days when you are get to the water and there is no wind you can easy say "bugger it, Im going for a row"
    Tom
    Originally they had a plywood centreboard. When they were redesigned for the steel one, the width was reduced and this was built to suit with the result that the centreboard case is too skinny to take a decent ply board. I'm stuck with the steel.

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    I reckon a bit of plywood screwed down would be fine, or even realwood.
    I didnt know about the slotwidth, but that isnt the issue at the moment is it.
    Getting it to a row or outboard stage is at least using it which will be great.
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddles View Post

    I'll screw a lid onto the centreboard case, something that can be removed easily come centreboard time but which will seal the hull in the interim. I'm thinking of screws and Sikafex - is that a good or a daft solution?

    Richard

    G'day Daddles
    What you propose makes a lot of sense. Can be done simpler & cheaper.
    When I go rowing in Teal, I just whack a bit of duct tape over the CB slot.
    On the outside if I remember -before- I put her in the water.
    On the inside if I forget...

    Remember: simplicate, and add lightness.

    In any case, the slot will provide a useful support & locator for a rowing thwart.
    Oh, and get a small drum to beat time for the galley slav... errr... kids rowing.

    cheers
    AJ

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