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    Default Concrete for courtyard - what are my options?

    Hi guys,

    First post and in need of advice.

    We have a courtyard area (approx 6mt * 7mt) which use to have 600*600mm pavers. We have since installed a roller door for car access and removed all pavers and now deciding what to do with the surface.

    The plan is do a concrete floor which will look super contemporary and withhold the weight of our cars and provide us the flexibility to entertain also. As this is a very open area and immediately observable from our entertaining area inside the house the look of this area is paramount.

    What sort of surface should we look at? Considering polished though costly. Donít like stencil but would consider helicopter finish concrete coloured or stained then sealed or epoxy. Can this be made to work?

    I know the information I have provided is very limited but would really love some feedback.

    Cheers,

    B.

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    At least 4" with reo
    Stamped does in my exoeriance get slippery when wet
    Why not stencil



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    how much does stencilled cost per m2?

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    Have no idea , got ours done over 9 years ago
    There are a lot of things to consider
    The site how easy/hard to prepear and pour
    The pattern colour
    The size of the area normally the larger the cheeper per square
    How much work is going on in the area do they need work or not
    Thickness / amount of concrete needed
    Best bet get a local Quote
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    Been a while since I have got a price on pattern concrete but I think it's around $100/m, probably more now. Just ask around for a good concretor, they are hard to find these days.

    Another cheaper option, which looks very contemporary, is to get it finished in a stipple finish, then get it saw cut at 600 x 600 or larger squares. Makes it look like large format pavers. You could get it done in charcoal colour so it looks better than the normal colour.
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    If you want contemporary I would steer clear of stenciling and go with exposed aggregate. Phone around and get some prices, over here you are looking for about $65 square metre as there is less work in finishing than stenciling if you go with the standard concrete. Expect to pay around $140 more per cubic metre more for coloured concrete or special stone colour requests such as black basalt. Seal it when it is done and it looks magic, you will not be sorry and will have a courtyard that your friends drool over. Remember to allow for runoff and make sure the levels are right.

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    hi guys,

    thanks for the feedback so far

    i have attached a link of the area in question

    took the photo from inside as this is the most important aspect of seeing the area to us.

    although it is not clear from the image we have built a raised pond on right hand side of image (near door). also there are two step down once you open the doors.

    please note that internal floors are polished black concrete and although they look very good, whatever colour we go with outside will need to be much lighter to give sense of space.

    plan is to have a white pebble border around slab and to clad wooden slat walls with blueboard and render or do something else with slat wall.

    please assist with ideas and recommend a good concretor if possible

    cheers

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    With the courtyard being a major focus from inside as your photo shows you definitely want to do something special. Exposed gives you so many options and it does not have the "fake tacky feel" that I get when I look at stamped concrete, save that for median strips I say.

    I did a quick search and here is a link to a mob in Sydney with some pictures for ideas http://www.decorpebble.com.au/elemen...%20Job%201.htm Do some more searches you are bound to find alot more, it is very popular at the moment.

    Most good concretors can do this, especially the old blokes as it was big in the 70's. It ain't rocket science so don't let anyone try and tell you it is. There are various ways of doing it, all start with pouring the concrete, standard concrete will do and still give you a good effect. You can order coloured concrete and if you want seed the concrete with coloured stone either when it is in the truck (painful and hard) or by evenly distributing the stone over the surface of the concrete as it is trowelled off. Many guys trowel off, roll the edges and that is it, they then leave it till it is dry enough to hit with a gerney which washes out the cement on the surface and exposes the stone. Some guys spray the surface with a sugar and water solution as this prevents the concrete from curing and allows more time before it has to be hit with the gerney. Leave it a few days to cure off (stay off it so you don't cause any stains by dirt and oil) then spray on a water based sealer with a everyday garden sprayer.

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    Here is another one looks great with the decking.
    http://www.exposedconcrete.com.au/ph...ay_037_lge.jpg

    Depending on how much room you need each side for your car you could make some decking benches to sit on that would look real smick out there, they can be movable so you can move them around and you can make the top hinged as storage boxes. Also, as I said before allow for drainage, we did a job last summer in a similar colour and we used a large (600mm) plastic pot as forming and poured it so there were a couple of circlular garden beds in the concrete. Slope the concrete into the round garden beds (best have them down each side of the roller door away from your house) wack a couple of those yukkas you have there into the ground in each hole and then it's Jamie Durie eat your heart out

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    A brochure I found that had a lot of different examples that came be done with concrete
    http://www.concretecoloursystems.com...icbrochure.pdf

    Hope it helps

    As said above I do like the exposed aggregate

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    thanks for all the great feedback

    please keep them coming

    getting people to do this sort of stuff (exposed aggregate) in sydney is not as easy as i thought. they all say its dated and stencils are the way to go

    i will not deterred

    looking forward to showing you guys the final product

    b

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpsy View Post
    getting people to do this sort of stuff (exposed aggregate) in sydney is not as easy as i thought. they all say its dated and stencils are the way to go
    I thought Sydney was leading in the new fashion stakes, in WA you get the reverse answer, "nah mate stencils are for the old folks homes, go exposed aggregate and polished concrete" either Sydney has already passed this stage and is into the next fashion cycle or we are in front for once or maybe it is just that the stone mined over there is really ugly and no-one wants to see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpsy View Post
    t..... they all say its dated and stencils are the way to go

    Thats crap,
    They obviously have no idea how to do it.

    Stencil concrete, in my opionin, looks cheap and unattractive. There's a lot of exposed aggregate driveways being done close to my area in multi million dollar homes.
    Drive down a couple of streets in a crappy suburb and most will be stencilled concrete. Have a look in an affluent suburb and you wont see many stencil driveways at all. They may not be exposed aggregate but they will definately not be stencilled.
    Whats looking really good of late is black aggregate in a black oxide concrete with or without a paver/tiled border. It also looks great with a white aggregate and white oxide concrete.
    The days of the orange/red pebblecrete are long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby2 View Post
    Thats crap,
    They obviously have no idea how to do it.

    Stencil concrete, in my opionin, looks cheap and unattractive. There's a lot of exposed aggregate driveways being done close to my area in multi million dollar homes.
    Drive down a couple of streets in a crappy suburb and most will be stencilled concrete. Have a look in an affluent suburb and you wont see many stencil driveways at all. They may not be exposed aggregate but they will definately not be stencilled.
    Whats looking really good of late is black aggregate in a black oxide concrete with or without a paver/tiled border. It also looks great with a white aggregate and white oxide concrete.
    The days of the orange/red pebblecrete are long gone.
    I wasn't going to be so blunt but hey, I agree the use of black cobbles as a border also looks very good athough this sort of thing starts to get pretty pricey due to the added labour and materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby2 View Post
    Whats looking really good of late is black aggregate in a black oxide concrete with or without a paver/tiled border. It also looks great with a white aggregate and white oxide concrete.
    is that in a polished finish?

    we have blk concrete with white aggregate polished inside and it looks awesome

    for outdoor, white aggregate in white concrete with loose large blk stone border sounds great.
    Last edited by alpsy; 14th September 2007 at 12:24 AM. Reason: added info

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