Thread: 14' sea going design

Welcome Richard,

I just moved your post to the general Boat Design/Plans subforum.

Best wishes
Michael Storer

Richard - Welcome to the Forum !

Do you have any preference for either sail or power craft ?

I'd agree with the Spearfish being a bit small in choppy seas, built the Hartley (Husky) 10' 6" and decided it is great in a river but anything over .75 to 1 metre swell etc at sea is too risky...... a good 16' would be the minimum for me...... I love Hartley designs so can't be objective on other types )

My Yellowtail, at 14', would be perfect






Richard

Originally Posted by Aberdeen

Richard - Welcome to the Forum !

Do you have any preference for either sail or power craft ?

I'd agree with the Spearfish being a bit small in choppy seas, built the Hartley (Husky) 10' 6" and decided it is great in a river but anything over .75 to 1 metre swell etc at sea is too risky...... a good 16' would be the minimum for me...... I love Hartley designs so can't be objective on other types )

thanks for the welcome Aberdeen

power would be my preference, the reason i don't want anything much bigger is the extra costs involved i.e building materials, bigger motor and the space to build it

also anything more than a metre swell you won't find me out there

i like the look of the spearfish, and i've had a look at the Hartley Scamp 14 which i quite like but got to thinking i may be able to scale up the spearfish to 14'

Originally Posted by Daddles

My Yellowtail, at 14', would be perfect






Richard

that really is a beautiful design i would love to build something like that

but would it be ok for power or is she just for sail ?

Originally Posted by honkongphoie

thanks for the welcome Aberdeen

power would be my preference, ............
i like the look of the spearfish, and i've had a look at the Hartley Scamp 14 which i quite like but got to thinking i may be able to scale up the spearfish to 14'

Mate,
I have the plans for the Scamp 15' and sort of started that one.... UNTIL the wife told me to build something bigger ! She reckons anything less than 18 foot is smaller than the sharks out there
Hence I have made a start on the Vixen 17 being extended to 18' -
Have to keep the wife happy you know

Originally Posted by honkongphoie

that really is a beautiful design i would love to build something like that

but would it be ok for power or is she just for sail ?

http://www.payneyachts.com/trailer_sailers.htm

She can be built with an inboard motor (her original design actually), either as an open boat or with a small coach house, she can be built with the inboard and sail, or she can be built as mine is, a sail boat with room for an outboard. She takes a 5hp outboard.

She isn't fast but a good sea boat and economical, not to mention gorgeous

David Payne, the designer, is right up there with Iain Oughtred - very good designs, very good boats and very good plans.

Richard

Daddles the Yellowtail is very tempting i love the shape.

How long have you been building her, what's she like to build and have you any idea of what sort of weight the finished hull is ?

Do you have any more pictures of the build?

Richard

Originally Posted by honkongphoie

Daddles the Yellowtail is very tempting i love the shape.

How long have you been building her, what's she like to build and have you any idea of what sort of weight the finished hull is ?

Do you have any more pictures of the build?

Richard

The basic hull (planked and that's it, not even cleaned up - please clean up as you go, it makes soooooo much difference) was built by a pack of reprobate novices during a 6 month boat building course at TAFE - one night a week and none of us had built anything remotely boat like before. She spent a year or so sitting in my shed while I worked on Redback. She lost another year while I went riding bikes instead of playing boats. I'm doing things the slow way and somethings for interest's sake alone - read the Coaming Challenge and the Steaming Long bits of Timber threads. There's no need to make boat building as hard as I am, it's just more fun the way I'm doing it. I wouldn't even attempt to put a build time on it because it'd be meaningless. There's no reason why you couldn't build one in a year though ... if you kept at it.

All up weight? She weights 120kg now but has been built heavy so you could do better. David Payne rates her at 250kg but that's with a coach house, an inboard motor and a very deep keel to protect the prop - the version I'm building should be a lot lighter.

She's very similar in build to the Ougtred boats of the same size so picture essays of building one of them will also serve for her. She's not as flighty as they are and possibly a tad heavier, but of similar quality.

She's based on a 1930's Sydney Harbour work boat. Although Sydney Harbour is a protected harbour, it still gets pretty rough and demands a boat that will handle the weather. Well worth looking at, or her 16ft sister, the Snapper boat.

I've got a couple of threads running about the build. I think the best one is 'The Latest Sixpence'. Yes, I should look up the link for you but I should also be racing out the door to take the lad to soccer training (so this isn't even proof read).

Richard

Thanks for the info Daddles, (i'll have a look for the thread myself After all thats what the search facility is there for)

this design sounds and looks ideal for me just the sort of thing i was looking for

i think i'll do a bit more research on the Yellowtail before getting to exited and ordering the plans..lol..

as promised here's a few pics of my Rye bay 6 pram dinghy, it only took around 30 hrs to build, please forgive me for the intresting colour scheme

silly me forgot to take any of the rye bay 10