Thread: Canoe stern cray boat

Some more photos of the boat shown in post 127 .
Nice , isn't she !.
Regards Rob J.

This boat is WAY too much boat for me , but what a boat !. Google Translate
Rob J.

Check this out ! Colin Archer 42 - Sejlbåde - Både til salg - hbs .
They have just finished doing it up , but have just reduced the price to $78,000 Aust , or make an offer !.
Too much boat for me , but wow , wouldn't it be fun , if you had a reliable crew !.
Regards Rob J.

That's not too much boat Rob.

It has a diesel engine.

A good man and his dog could operate it.

Paul.

That got a chuckle Paul.
I've got a heap more photos , I might put some up tonight , showing the rebuild , and the MASSIVE , MASSIVE construction of her !.
And the interior is very well done too , very stylish , but understated.
That might even get the missus on board !.
Regards Rob J.

Colin Archer designs were very heavily designed.
No problem there, I am often accused of "over building".

If the Minister for War and Finance can be converted to this vessel, you may be on a winner.

Just stress the point to her it has a lovely, DIESEL.

Paul.

Oh yes Paul , it would be a diesel , alright !.
I think the first time you layed the bugger over in a stiff breeze , that would be the end , she would want off !.
But , the interior I think she would really appreciate .
But dieseling around a massively built 24 ton boat would sure suck up the fuel , I'm guessing !.
I'll post some more photos tonight.
Regards Rob J.

Fuel usage has a lot of different factors involved.
A decent sized engine.
Boat design, the Archer wins there.
Gear reduction and prop size.

If all these elements have been properly calculated by the right marine engineer, then your vessel can be WAAAY cheaper to operate than an out board runabout.

Paul.

Paul , the engine is a new 120 hp Iveco , so it should be economical.
The design , yes , the Archer is a slippery design.
The prop size etc is the interesting bit.
Motorsailing , that is having reduced sail up , and the engine and prop ticking over , will get you from A to B very quickly , while reducing any roll etc.
I'd say she would be a very stately cruiser .
Or a bit "over the top" troller !.
Regards Rob J.

Rob.
I use to often run a small jib while I was motoring for any distance.
Reduced roll, was the best result.
But in the right conditions the jib gave that bit of "EXTRA", not clearly defined, which made the engine run more economically. The Horse Power of the jib was obviously taking some of the working load off the engine.

For some reason, we do not see this type of traveling any more. I don't know why.
Engines are bigger and faster, which means it all costs more in $$ terms. But the end result of traveling at hull speed seems to have been lost between the 2 worlds.

I know my old fashioned thinking may not suit your purpose.

I have had a life long love affair with GARDNER'S.

Paul.

Mate , yes , I love the Gardners too.
I'd love to own a boat with one in it , particularly the older , very slow revving series.
But back to motor sailing , I have a few articles on just how efficient that is.
And I've done it myself on HS , it makes a fool like me look a good sailer !.
But , what did it for me , was my conversation with Bernard Wilson , on his boat.
He didn't just have a main and headsail , "just in case" , the headsail was on a roller , and the gaff rig was equipped with lazy jacks.
I asked him about that , and he said yes , he puts sail up when he can , because it saves fuel , and the engine , and gives a better motion.
There is also the big cray boat PERA in Portland , that is set up with staysails , that he uses at every opportunity.
But Bernard vindicated what I was looking for , what I was trying to achieve , a boat that is easily motorsailed , and he had built for himself the perfect example.
Regards Rob J.

My stay sail was rigged permanently. Not on a roller but I had a cover for the sail so it could be used quickly, any time I wished.

I rarely used my mainsail. That really only happened on the days I was having a "holiday" and felt like just Poking about.
Not serious sailing.

I love all, old slow revving diesels. That is what I grew up with.
Just me showing my age, I guess.
I don't mind that at all, I think modern engineering is great and very reliable.
But it has not proven itself, yet, over the long term.
I.E. engines that sit in boats for 25 years plus. Without problems, if their maintenance schedule is kept up.

Paul.

Yes Paul , a Gardner at idle gives real meaning to the expression of "just ticking over".
If I had my 'druthers though , I'd shut even a Gardner down , and just listen to the sound of the water.
But it would be nice to know the Gardner is there !.
I'd just like to go out trolling , and drop anchor maybe over a good fishing spot .
But if I've got a good crew , then shake out the sails , and get a riggle along to ports down the coast , for a visit .
And if the wind isn't in our favour , crank up the stink pot !.
Nuthin' too complicated in that !.
Regards Rob J.

For your interest Rob.

Gardner Enthusiast - 'Gardner Enthusiast'

No "stink pots'" , just beautiful machinery.

Paul.