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  1. #1
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    Question Crown on sail. - What class of racing dingy is this???

    Hi All,
    Picked up a wooden sailing(racing) dingy, about 12'.
    I live on the Central Coast of California.
    A 'Crown' symbol is on the mainsail (has a jib, too).
    Also appears to have a crown symbol on
    the casting used on the transom.

    The design sports a pair of rotating/retractable leeboards;
    - Each in its' own well.

    VERY light hull, fully-contoured (no angles) of what looks
    like 1/4" thick strips about 6" wide, lightly glassed
    on the outside, running diagonally to a small keel strip.

    I have researched the symbol, looking on the net for
    a "Crown" or "Royal" class of dingy. No luck.

    Have not found a reference to anything that
    used dual leeboards AND compound-curved hull.
    But then again, I'm a newbee. What is it??

    Here is a link to pictures of it (cut and paste into your browser).

    http://www.polyradial.com/Personal.htm

    Thanks in advance,
    Jeff Krause
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    G'day Jeff,

    I've been sailing for 35 years in dinghys here and I've never seen one. I think you can discount Australia as a possibility. They must have been popular given the sail number is over 6000. It looks like what we had here as a 'Corsair' but it isn't one of those.
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    Hi Jeff,

    I'm an old salt too but have not seen anything like it here either.

    My feeling is european though more on a hunch than anything else. Perhaps some of the brits on here can help :confused:

    Good luck in your search.

    Jamie
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    The crown leaves me with a nagging "Elvstrom" feeling... but the leeboards don't!!

    Start looking in Denmark?

    Of course there is always the chance that it's someone's special, with sails robbed from another class.

    Cheers,

    P

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    Funny about that BM, I had exactly the same thought about Elvstrom. You could be correct about it being a hybrid. I ve seen some strange and wonderful creations made in back yards.
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    Hmm.... best I can find is a Delphin Jollen which would appear to be German or Dutch, and a few found their way to the US, but the logo was a dolphin......

    I had a twin boarded thing in the early 70's but it was a tunnel hull and far too heavy for it's own good... Made by Delta Craft in the 60's if anyone has any info, I'd be curious!

    Cheers,

    P

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    I also searched extensively but to no avail, I was thinking Trident but that is a largish keelboat, or, I think, the locally made trailerable tri-maran.
    Looked up numerous emblem sites and turned up nothing that looked like it, but, as stated, I have seen some strange hybrids on the water like a moth with a mirror sail etc etc.
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    Wink Mystery Solved: Atlanta Koralle S6R

    Just wanted to close this thread with the answer.
    Bitingmidge was close. It is German. Precious few in the U.S. at all.

    Atlanta BootsBau of Germany made this racing dingy in 1968.
    The model is an 'Koralle S6R'

    I started a US-based web page site about them, but it is barely started:
    http://www.polyradial.com/KORALLE_S6R.htm

    I have not found any english-speaking sites about the S6R, so
    I guess its up to me. They really are interesting boats, and a good example of lightweight wooden boat design.

    When I bought it a 2-ft section of keel was rotted (or 'balsafied' you
    might say) by rainwater.
    but it was still all dimensionally intact so I used some thinnned-out , ultra-slow-curingt epoxy sealer to slowly infiltrate the rotted area (adding more & more over a period of days, until the wood would not absorb anymore).
    This worked well enough and then I just glassed over the area a bit for added strength afterwards.

    The other wood was deeply water-stained and I decided to paint the whole thing w/ marine urethane (Yes, I know that just is not done by a true restorer, but hey, these boats are very rare but not particularly valuable yet, so it was the only practical option I had to get myself a
    nice, good-looking sailboat into the water (see pictures on the link above).

    I'll post some more as the web pages develop.
    Cheers,
    Jeff K.

    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    Hmm.... best I can find is a Delphin Jollen which would appear to be German or Dutch, and a few found their way to the US, but the logo was a dolphin......

    I had a twin boarded thing in the early 70's but it was a tunnel hull and far too heavy for it's own good... Made by Delta Craft in the 60's if anyone has any info, I'd be curious!

    Cheers,

    P

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    Hi,

    Caddicus has responded but it did not show up so:

    I posted this yesterday but it never showed up. so here it is again:

    The $100 wooden sloop with TWIN LEEBOARDS (in wells) on a free trailer
    turned out to be an Atlanta Bootbau (German) Koralle S6R.

    Compound-curve, chevron-ply hull with no ribs (just a small internal Keel rib). Twin pivoting Leeboards, each in it's own well.
    Sloop configuration with a 2-part mast and LOTS of sail area for its weight. My guess is this thing was built for racing. No frills.

    2-ft section of Keel was rotted ('Balsafied') by rainwater but was dimensionally intact.
    I spent 3 days using ultra-slow-curing epoxy sealer to infiltrate the
    balsafied area, which worked very well, but of course this probably added
    a few pounds of resin to the boat by the time it was done.

    The Deck and interior was badly water stained, so all that added up to
    a decision to paint the wood with marine urethane, instead of varnish.

    Here is the result. I started an english-speaking web site for the model,
    but have only a couple pictures so far.
    I've had the sloop out 5 times this year on local lakes. Its a blast.

    http://www.polyradial.com/KORALLE_S6R.htm

    Jeff K.

    No idea what happened, the post was not present and I was just trying to set everything straight, oh well!!
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