David Payne TS

**scottyk** · 25th July 2005, 05:42 PM

Hey Paul
I am currently building a Mike Waller designed 18 footer, she is about fifty percent complete or thats what I tell everybody when they ask me how long 'till she's on the water........how longs a piece of string??
I am building it using the cold moulding method of hull construction although you can use the same plans for strip construction as the Mike has detailed plans of both to produce the same hull. He also has a version for stitch and glue plywood, of course this hull shows two chines.
The design is a modern sailing boat that has good interior room for its size and a generous sail plan.
you can view some at the Mike Waller's web sit or I can send you shots of my own.
One thing that I can say is a nearly compulsory book to have before starting the boat is The Gougen Brothers on Boat construction, it still remains the bible for wooden epoxy boat construction after all these years.

A very wise old boat builder told me once that if you fall in love with the boat before you start then you will succeed.

**Daddles** · 25th July 2005, 08:32 PM

Where's Mike Waller from Scotty?

Richard

**bitingmidge** · 25th July 2005, 10:33 PM

Straya

http://www.wallerdesign.com.au/

Cheers,

P

**Daddles** · 25th July 2005, 11:13 PM

Thanks Peter ... and, thank goodness, I'm not tempted by any of them. That's no reflection on his designs, it's just that I'm fighting off to full a 'want to build' list as it is

Richard

**Auld Bassoon** · 25th July 2005, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by bitingmidge

Straya

http://www.wallerdesign.com.au/

Cheers,

P

Aww mate!

Don't get me started again

When a 'yoof' I built quite a few dinghy's and small(ish - up to c 26') deep-keel monohull day-sailers, either using ply, planking, or strip-cedar methods.

Growing up in Jersey, this was a wonderful place for sailing about, and I generally had my Godfather (R.N. Commander, retd), as mentor / antagonist.

Somewhat later on, I had the wonderful opportunity to sail up and down the east coast of Africa quite a few times (Langebaan on the Atlantic coast, via Cape Town, P.E. and East London, Durban (where I was based for a couple of years), all the way up to Dar es Salaam, and Madagascar, the Seychelles (paradise on this earth - if you ever get the chance, just go), and so on.

Most of this on a just gorgeous 74' ketch rigged and custom made beauty. (I have some pics somewhere if anyone's interested).

Rounded the Cape of Good Hope some 7 times (not including the several aborted attempts one nasty June day/night/day/night/day in a really crappy and very small cat' with a lousy sail plan and only a 2-stroke o/board with about 20 litres of fuel. Winds, (Strong, c F5 gusting 7) from N.E., medium seas, friggin' cold, and a boat that's holding course at c 030 - but going astern, darnit!

Nearly poop'ed myself, when rounding Cape Aghulas there was this mad, demented 'barking' sound just aft. Turns out to be a very aggreived seal that we'd apparently just run over whilst he/she/it was sleeping (it was around 03:30), and the blerry seal was right between the two hulls, about two feet from the transom, and very determined to make his/her/its point! Well, after I'd climbed back down the friggin' mast (!) and gathered my wits, I wondered where my erstwhile copilot was? Fast asleep was the answer, the sod! Ok, it was the middle of the night, but so what? (we were doing the normal 4 on, 4 off watch routine). I kinda miss that stuff..

I haven't done much sailing here in Aus, but... The thought of those plans, and living in hot, tropical Melbourne (not!), well, ahhhh!

Cheers!

**Boatmik** · 26th July 2005, 10:08 PM

You have done a fine job! For my money David Payne is a truly great designer. I haven't seen any dud boats from him in terms of performance or appearance.

One thing I find quite amazing is that he drafts old-style - on paper - yet manages to produce some of the most "right from all angles" 3D shapes of any designer I am aware of.

Congratulations

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