Thread: info on David Payne Yellowtail

Howdy Richard,

You will shortly be subjected to a conversation with Daddles who is building a Yellowtail.

It is a very pretty boat - like all of David's stuff and will work very well indeed.

You might be able to prepare yourself for the discussion by looking at these (read carefully - he ie Daddles, might ask you questions to check)
Me Yellowtail
Introducing, the Yellowtail Yawl
Yellowtail Yawl Update

There is heaps of other stuff that he has written too inside other posts.

MIK

Ahh Mik, you're forgetting the thread where I and this very same gentleman have been discussing the Yellowtail
14' sea going design

Freeboard - I'll have to get back to you on that one as the boat's in the shed and I'll have to do some interpretation of the plans to work out where the waterline is supposed to be. I think you'll find it's quite generous though - look at the interior shots of Sixpence, I've got a feeling the seat tops are near the waterline and then there's the coaming to fit. If you really want a dry boat, build the coach house version.

Bilge boards. Mik, you've seen the hull so you should be able to give some thoughts on fitting and strength. Design and placement is, of course, a more complex question.

Richard

Ahh........ speaking of coaming how goes it?

Originally Posted by m2c1Iw

Ahh........ speaking of coaming how goes it?

Fighting assignments and upcoming exams

I'll be heading down to a softwood timbers place to talk meranti and tassie oak. Dad's sourced a new burner which will get your average aircraft carrier up to steam before your coffee's brewed ... at a price. I want all this to happen quickly but it's a case of when it happens. Don't worry, I'll keep you notified.

Richard, that's the thing with the Yellowtail, the various configurations.

You can build her inboard or outboard - personally, I think an inboard takes up too much room but I guess that depends on what you'll be using her for. She takes a 5hp, long shaft outboard (no bigger, doesn't need it, you could probably get away with a seagull).

You can build her with a small coachhouse or open.

The small coachhouse is very small and really only shelter for a very small child, the dog or your baggage. However, along with the associated sweeping coaming, makes her a very dry boat apparently.

I originally planned to fit a coachhouse as my daughter was then only 3, but now she's 7 I've decided to build an open version for the extra room. This also gives me access to the mast, not normally a problem but I've had Mik design a yawl rig for her (which moves the mast forward) rather than the main and jib of the standard version. Because mine was originally intended to have the coachhouse, the cockpit extends further forward than the normal open version.

Therein lies another option, lug yawl (as per Mik) or one of the three standard rigs - gunter, gaff or sloop. Within each of those, you can go inboard or outboard plus open or coach house. Hell, you don't even have to fit sails and centreboard, they make a very nice putt putt.

THEN you get to choose one of the two or three or so interior layouts.

All the versions (apart from Mik's yawl) come with the plans. The basic hull is standard for all. It's only when you start fitting the skeg that you need to allow for inboard or outboard. Once popped off the building frames, you need to decide the other options as this determines the interior framing.

Richard

Regarding the freeboard. If you look at the photos of Sixpence, the seat tops are 200mm above the design waterline. Whacking a ruler on her, you've got about 380mm freeboard (to the top of the gunwale) at the lowest point, but you can then add 50mm of coaming to the top of that.

Soooo, cosidering things never sit where they're designed, you could say you've got over 400mm of freeboard, give or take a splash or two

Richard

thanks for all the replies, i kind of guesed Daddles that you would be the man of the moment

i intend to use her for fishing and general puttering about so would be great with just an outboard to give a bit of extra space (i have a 4hp 4 sroke)

the coachhouse will just add unessasary weight so would'nt be fitting that or the centreboard

over 380mm freeboard is great plus another 50mm of coaming just what i need to keep the water out

the Yellowtail sounds like a very versatile design which can be made to you own specs.

just one more question i forgot to ask is how many sheets of 9mm ply do you need for the hull?

Thanks Richard

Originally Posted by honkongphoie

just one more question i forgot to ask is how many sheets of 9mm ply do you need for the hull?

I wouldn't have a clue how many you need. They need scarfing and we were building two at the same time plus lots of other bits and pieces, you tended to grab whatever you needed (the basic hull ie, just off of the formers, was built as one of a pair during a TAFE boat building course).

I don't think there's a materials list either. Mind you, I've got a copy of most of the sheets supplied to the TAFE. I don't know what David provides with the boat though considering the variations, he probably doesn't do materials lists.

Richard

TAFE - Technical And Further Education - a level of tertiary education here in Oz

well the yellowtail plan has been ordered., i have some where i can build her under cover (instead of the garden as the other 2 craft i've built)

soon as the plan arrives i can start getting a list of timber for the build

Oh gawd. It's a race. I've had it

Richard

nup still no steaming going on here

Originally Posted by Daddles

Oh gawd. It's a race. I've had it

Richard

challange on i think it's do-able in 8 months with a bit of hard graft and a few crates of beer

Richard

C'mon Daddles.... this just might be the motivation for you to finish yours


Originally Posted by Daddles
Oh gawd. It's a race. I've had it

Originally Posted by Aberdeen

C'mon Daddles.... this just might be the motivation for you to finish yours


Originally Posted by Daddles
Oh gawd. It's a race. I've had it

Pfft. She's missed two Goolwa festivals that she was pencilled in for, and they come around ever TWO YEARS

Nothing happening at the moment thanks to exams. Once school holidays start (second week of July), I'll be able to go visit the timber people to work out what stick I'm going to ruin next

Floating by Christmas ... provided the shed floods

Richard

Richard you didn't specify which Christmas she will be floating by !
By the way just had that oregon dropped off.... looks good to me...but then again I wouldn't really know.....

Just about to look for info with photos of the different methods of cutting it up... eg.. quarter sawn etc..... At my age I need photos...
It is about 180 x 150mm with the curve rings running from top to bottom of the widest bit....