Thread: Lugger plans

ROFLMAO!!! Send my re-draw of Trixen to David to be kept for prosterity?? gawd Mik thats good!! Man first real laugh Ive had all day brilliant!!

Mate Im a total novice at drawing plans... this was simply an experiement cause I was informed by someone that without qualifications from MIT or some other Naval Design place it wouldnt be possible! It also gave me invaluable insight into the amount of work involved with drawing a boat getting the offsets right the diagonals the buttocks futtocks keel waterlines etc etc etc to say nothing about shape size of timbers needed locations of masts etc... took friggin months to get them to where I got them... One tends not to realize or even consider the amount of work thats involved in designing a boat I never did till I did this one and by gawd it was a hell of an eyeopener I can tell you!... funny thing was I then gave them to Tony without a second thought!! :eek: didnt keep a copy nothing! ... See when I met Tony him and I had had a quite a few long yarns via email about luggars and although Im a bit of a luggar nut hes worse!! and hes a bloody nice bloke to go with it and as we were considering moving I really didnt know what I was upto at the time I figured in my way that he would enjoy them... give him a giggle you know?! bet it worked a treat too! ...ah well at least theyre coming home

I did email David several times when I was at the keel weight stage and it was through his comments that we figured the keel weight out... I guess I wanted help from him for free but although he didnt comment greatly he did comment that the cost for him to do them "properly" would be quite high but gave me approximations of weight for the keel and possible locations and distribution (ie: 500lb lead keel and 3 - 400lb in ingots in the bilge} which I must admit he had no reason to do and it was greatly appreciated... but I never contnued with it since the cost as he said would be exhorbitant given that there is such a large plethoria of designs out there already created at reasonable cost

Actually with their return Im hoping to somehow get them into the program FreeShip to "prove" them before I tackle another model... I guess in the back of my mind in some weird corner of my heart I hope theyre doable into an actual boat... but thats some way off just a sparkle of a thought to create and design a boat to build you know? weird eh!... well although she was drawn using the drawings of Trixen as a basis and other infor Id gathered (admittedly mainly from Tony )the shrinking of them to 26ft LOD x 8ft BOD was all my disast... eerr work!

Theres still masses of work... for instance I have to work out what size timbers to use I mean I dont want to overbuild her nor underbuild her so ive got to work those figures out... Im pretty sure when i get them back and start work on them again I will muddle them out.

I have inserted the only set of offsets I have found of her into FreeShip (an old set Id started with) and the resuls have been quite encouraging... bloody encouraging in fact! but Im not real crash hot with programs like that bloody confusing for the most part but once I get back to the mine I will have some time after shift to muck with it... hopefully it will come together... then a true scale model and we will see...

Mik when we had the flood last year I lost pretty much all my plans including Trixen Iain Oughtreds Grey Seal Wharrams Tiki38 Crowninsheilds Fame and Dark Harbor a couple of old desigsn of powerboats Al Masons Sorkust along with many many others... the only two Ive managed to get back was through some serious pleading to Michael Mason in Nova Scotia for Elly (130+ year old Swedish Koster still sailing) and Fame from Thadd Danielson in Boston without the offsets which is a shame but well... thats it... and her bloody highness has dictated that I can only spend $1000 on plans from here on no more... so I cant afford to replace them and must make a definant choice... yeah yeah I know I said Davids Paketi was the one... but Its just SO FRIGGIN confusing!!! Im now undecided once again so am not commiting to any design as yet

See I still REALLY like Bolgers St Valery (a luggar) and I also REALLY like GlenLs Noyo Trawler but then I also REALLy like Wallers Trailer cat and theres also Wharrams Tiki26 thats a real possibility (read a mates got some plans I can have at a better than excellent price!) and then theres... so Ive pulled up again! Till I do something cause with only $1000 to spend on plans Im looking at maybe 2 sets thats it!! :eek: I dont know how Im gonna handle that

I think Tony has masses of info that hes hoarding about luggars (as I said hes a total luggar nut whereas Im only a learner by comparison! ) but somehow I think hes still using it!! Mind here hes a damn fine drawer of luggars his drawings of Redbill look right smart!

Actually without knowing it hes been my greatest supporter through all the years of muddleing around with designs and choices... the young buggar kept sending me reams of scans of plans from Rudder MotorBoating and other old defunct magazines!!! Talk about inspiration!!! or maybe contributing to my confusion

But send my wee efforts to a museum!! HAHAHHAHA ooh gawd that was EXCELLENT!! Cheers mate!

Actually Im wondering if Tony ever created anything with the wee blocks of Sheoak and Tuart I gave him to take back with him... forgot to ask ah well hopefully hes made something that will sweeten his life and his comfort with the missus always good to make them something every now and then keeps em smiling