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Thread: Row/sail/General Purpose/Beach
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7th October 2009, 09:53 AM #31
I nearly built Ellen years ago when the plans were free
Thanks for the link, I'd lost mine and yes, she's on the list.
There shouldn't be any problem changing things and, of course, the first step will be to ask the designer before purchase.
Would there be any problems in setting the boat up to take both a single lug sail and something with a jib? I realise this'd probably mean two mast steps, which doesn't appear a big deal. Sure, you'd wind up building two sailing rigs but I'm thinking a few years down the track for the second rig ... and maybe doing the hull modifications then too.
Gawd, the list is going to get longer before it gets shorter isn't it. Ah well, that's half the fun of the game. Mind you, I'm only thinking generally at the moment, deliberately so - call it a defence mechanism There is part of me that's considering just going up to Duck Flats, sitting down with Mik and Ted for a chat about designs, then coming home with a roll of plans and roof load of plywood (that's called 'the coward's way out' )
Richard
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7th October 2009, 05:09 PM #32SENIOR MEMBER
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Well, it has to be another vote for Iain O's Shearwater then!
As usual Iain's design comes with two rigs. Two mast positions as well. The other thing is the lug rig is 65 sq ft and the gunter rig is 92 sq ft. So you can start with the smaller rig, and as the kids grow and throw you out of the boat, go up to the larger rig. Or summer and winter rigs! The new plans now also include a one piece mast, rather than just two piece gunter, so you can even have the pleasure of making a nice long wooden stick.
Alternatively you could sail her with the lug rig and jib as our local Scows do. They just use MIK's boom tie at the front of the boom rather than further back. This is done to avoid the jib catching the front of the boom when tacking.
Somehow the Scows manage with just one mastfoot. Because of this it is essential with just the lug to tip the mast as far forward as possible. Iain O's solution to draw two mast foot positions, I think they are about 4" apart, is better.
PS, had very exiting day yesterday. Too scared to tell wife yet!
Brian
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7th October 2009, 05:36 PM #33
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10th March 2010, 03:05 PM #34
Hey Richard,
Is the LDB at the bottom of St Vincent's yet? Or the Pat? And is the new one the Shearwater or the Gannet?
Must say I looked the likes of pretty well all the boats above - the IOTA and the Ellen being up there with the afore-named. Any of them might have tempted me away from the Goat - but the Goat is nice, and I have the plans and timber...
Cheers,
The insane 'ducker
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15th March 2010, 01:22 AM #35Senior Member
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Hey Daddles,
Are you still looking at options for your next build??
I'm weeks away from launching my Navigator, and am also looking for my next build. My criteria seems similar to yours. I've also had a look at IO's designs, but I've settled on a Lincolnville Salmon Wherry. The flat bottomed wherries seem like they can handling beaching quite well, and they're all excellent rowers.
Boatbuilding Plans for Lapstrake Boats
I've got the plans, loftings, and a CD documenting a complete build, and it all looks within my ability.
Let us know when you finally make up your mind.
Cheers
Mickj
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15th March 2010, 07:15 AM #36
An interesting site Mick, one I hadn't seen before.
The wherries certainly look nice. None in my size range unfortunately, but maybe for later. The ten footer would do it but I'm a cuddly sized pussy cat and seeing I already have one boat I don't fit in, don't want to risk another, so a 12 footer with an uncluttered interior seems the best bet.
I like the picture of the Lincolnville Salmon wherry under sail, the one where it's heeled right over and he's sitting on the lee side where his weight's making it worse and he can't see past the sail
Richard
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17th March 2010, 11:52 PM #37
Hi Daddles,
Did the Iain Oughtred Acorns get mentioned? Nice-looking boats that "row well", apparently. Don't know if the transom would suit in surf, but the blurbs say "car-toppable" in at least one instance.
Cheers,
Alex.
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