Thread: "Sydney Putt-Putt" search

Have another look at the Payne boats Darren. Having helped build his 6m Motor Cruiser, they are very seaworthy and very safe for kids - if a kid is going to fall out of one of those things, you've go no show of keeping them in a boat.

Apart from that, as soon as you said "Sydney Putt-Putt", I thought David Payne. So have another look at his website, even if it's just to convince yourself (once again).

Richard

Hi Richard,

Thanks. I do like David's designs, and a couple are definitely on my shortlist of what to build first...however when looking again I remembered the other boat, and it seemed unique in being a similar style but more internal volume. It seemed to have been from a manufacturer so I hoped someone may have an idea about it.

But I'll definitely look at David's 6m again...certainly a nice looking boat for what I want.

Regards,
Darren

Here are a couple.

http://www.sciencetoymaker.org/boat/index.htm

http://users.bigpond.net.au/mechtoys/putt.html

http://www.scitoys.com/scitoys/scito...ermo.html#heat

Howdy Darren,

I think David's are the best resolved plans for these types of boats that I've seen.

You could always add a bit more height to the sheer yourself. I wouldn't go crazy with it but 100mm wouldn't hurt.

It might throw the nice lines of David's sheers out though. So the strategy is to build the whole sheer that bit extra and then when the boat is upright run a batten down the sheer and look at it from lots of angles, adjusting it until it looks right.

Michael Storer

Hi,

Having had another look, I think David's are the closest. The one I saw advertised just had nice character. I found a couple of UK plans of similar styles but wouldn't mind doing something Australian. Will seriously consider his 6m ones...or maybe the Cinema...or the Russcraft is nice. So many options!

Thanks for the suggestions...I liked Cliff's options, certainly easier to build but just a little on the small side (perhaps one for each foot?).

Any comments on David's plans - ease of use, problems, etc? Another reason I'd prefer to buy local plans than from o/seas, I know some people who have had problems with certain plans not being accurate or fair when built.

Thanks,
Darren

After years of selling other peoples' plans there are a few designers that can put plans together that don't result in lots of nervous phone calls from the builders.

David Payne is one of them.

Not that there are never problems - but the problems are few and easily resolved.

Michael Storer

I like David's plans. Complete. Accurate. He uses full sized prototypes to sort things out (we were building them at TAFE). He's good
My only concern with them is that while all the information is there, it can take a bit of digging to find it if you're not used to boat plans.

Richard

Good summary Daddles.

MIK

Hi,

Thanks Richard (and Mik!). Sounds good enough for me, and as stated if I do run into trouble I like the fact we'd be in the same time zone

I don't have problems interpreting plans - although they're models, the boats/ships I build are done "as the real thing" and many are built off plans where all the notes are in French, Italian, Spanish or with no notes, just the lines and offsets. So having English instructions and someone to call when stuck would be like heaven!

Hope to start building later this year once plan is decided upon, garage is sorted, deck is built, a couple of model commissions are finished, and SWMBO gives me permission and releases the finances!

Regard,s
Darren

Originally Posted by ModelShipwright

Hope to start building later this year once plan is decided upon, garage is sorted, deck is built, a couple of model commissions are finished, and SWMBO gives me permission and releases the finances!

Regard,s
Darren

Doing it on the never never are you?

Richard

Originally Posted by Daddles

Doing it on the never never are you?

Richard

Just about - it's been a long, hard slog but I think she's coming around. I've convinced her I've definitely found my passion with boats, and if I'm going to spend 2 years making one, it may as well be a real one as opposed to sitting on the mantlepiece!

She did appreciate a couple of Wooden Boat Shop boats at the last Melb boat show (the Nepean, but at $300K+ a little outside our price range ) and she's coming to the Hobart wooden boat fest in Feb with me - and knows that's when the trouble will start!

Deck should be done in the next month or so and models finished by April, and will use the money form them to buy the initial supplies )

Besides, I wouldn''t be doing it right unless I spent a few years dreaming, a few more poring over plans, another getting set up and then a couple of years making sawdust and crying into a pot of epoxy

Regards,
Darren

Don't forget buying more plans than you need (the Wild Dingo factor ), changing your mind more often than she does in a dress shop and getting halfway through the build before realising that you chose the wrong design (it's okay, most people fall in love with the thing before the end anyway )

Richard

Originally Posted by ModelShipwright

I don't have problems interpreting plans - although they're models, the boats/ships I build are done "as the real thing"

If you've only built model boats ...

...you might be pleasantly surprised about the reduction in both cost and labour per unit length!!!

MIK

Originally Posted by ModelShipwright

Hi,

Any comments on David's plans - ease of use, problems, etc? Another reason I'd prefer to buy local plans than from o/seas, I know some people who have had problems with certain plans not being accurate or fair when built.

Thanks,
Darren

Having bought and built one of David's plans as the prototype, I can assure all and sundry that the guy is a genius. I never had to modify any of the profiles or alter any of the frames to achieve a fair hull. The hull built to the design using the scantlings as specified, floated to its marks and performed to its expectations. Any questions that I had were answered more than promptly. David even came down to watch the initial prelaunching ( that's the one you do the week before you ask all and sundry to come and watch your pride and joy go in the water for the first time - saves heaps of embarrassment if you've forgotten to bring the rudder or something like that).
See my thread on the 18' trailer sailer.
Cheers
Graeme