Thread: what's whiter than solagard gloss

Haymes paints, Australian owned and made, best paint I have ever used, try a sample pot first

Originally Posted by rwbuild

Haymes paints, Australian owned and made, best paint I have ever used, try a sample pot first

I couldn’t agree more, I love Haymes for the way it goes on and the excellent coverage and that it’s Australian made. British Paints is now one of the lowest quality paints you an get

Originally Posted by mic-d

I couldn’t agree more, I love Haymes for the way it goes on and the excellent coverage and that it’s Australian made. British Paints is now one of the lowest quality paints you an get

Happy to see that both your results were positive.

My experience with Haynes which happened to be tinted to Antique White USA was that four coats of Haynes failed to provide sufficient coverage and colour casts from underneath were still visible.
Two coats of Dulux on the same surface provided full coverage.

As always YMMV

Haymes for me also and has been for at least 20 years.

Don't know who owns British Paints now but Dulux is owned by Nippon Paints. When they bought out Paint Spot stores about 5 years ago and threw out Haymes, I told them that I would not be back. Fortunately, Haymes opened a store here and service has been first class.

thanks all. I will give haymes a shot then. just has to be ultra vivid white with no hint of other colour. When i said the tin i tried was BP, i was having a guess. It's a blue tin. i will try to remember to look when i get home. the paint itself was fine and went on smoothly and leaves a glass like finish. up against the myriad other tins of white gloss that i have, it is white. up against the solaguard, it has a definite tinge of yellow/cream to it. my test pieces of wood were all primed skirting board.

A relation owns a medium sized home painting business. He uses Resene paints exclusively. Swears by it. NZ made and owned, so close enough. I can't vouch for their whites, but they have a lot of them to choose from.

The one called Resene White is RGB 245 245 242 . Gotta be getting close...!

From all my years around painting contractors they all have their preferred brand they like using. I used to push to use Dulux because of its brand recognition with the customers thinking they are getting the best quality paint, if it was a brand they are not familiar with they think you are skimming on costs
The other point is if colours are important, using a different brand paint to that of the colour chart you are working with can give slightly outcomes.
Some of the interior decorators we were working with would make us use the same brand as the colours they specified

Paint colour selection can be a real trap.

Solarguard(Wattyl) white has an RGB rating of 246, 246, 241
Dulux Vivid white has an RGB rating of 247, 248, 244.
The higher the numbers the whiter it is. Ultimate white (100% light refection from a pure mat surface) is 255,255,255 which is virtually impossible to achieve
Numbers closer to zero are closer to black.

One issue with using very white paint is via reflection it can both take on the colour of the surrounding paint or surfaces and make any contrasting paint look darker than it appears by itself.
This is why it's very useful to buy some sample pots and paint a section of all surfaces also next to any surfaces not being painted.

We're having the whole of our 100+ year old red brick and iron roof house painted and originally I wanted to have all the woodwork painted a very dark grey and vivid white.

The painter provided over a dozen sample pots to try and when I did the sample painting next to the red brick walls the very dark grey looked almost black and the vivid white looked faintly grey/pink depending what it was next to.
The painter suggested a slightly lighter grey (which via the RGB colouring indicated it came with very faint touch of red in it) and a half cream that also containing a very very faint touch of red.
The 3 colours worked really well together, all tied in by those very faint tinges of red.

Here's a shot of our newly painted gables and veranda. Window and door frames are still to be painted.
gables.jpg

Something else I learned was about paint degradation due to heat.
The colour I wanted was Dulux "Klavier" RGB = 54/52/34 which looked almost black ups against pure white.
The grey colour I ended up Using was Dulux "Grey Master" 80/78/78 which is the darkest colour that uses the Deep Base.
Colours darker than this use an Ultra Deep base which combined with the high absorbancy of light by such dark colours will get hotter and degrade the paint faster than the Deep base