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Thread: Red Lead paint

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    Default Red Lead paint

    Hi all,

    red lead is getting hard to come by and down here in Tassie, the manufacturer has to stop making it by next April ( govt regs). The manufacturer will make a batch of 100 litres to order which can be decanted into 4 litre pails. If anyone is interested in joining in for an order, I am happy to organise it. Minimum buy will be 4 litres and I would need to have enough orders to make it viable. Cost will be around $145/4 litres plus freight. which is what it costs me to buy.

    If anyone is interested, let me know.

    regards,

    AD
    www.denmanmarine.com.au
    Australian agent for Swallow Boats, Bruynzeel Multipanel Plywood and Barton Marine Products

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    Um.... why.

    Surely there has to be better products available.

    cheers
    Any thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
    Most powertools have sharp teeth.
    People are made of meat.
    Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman View Post
    Um.... why.

    Surely there has to be better products available.

    cheers
    In a word.......No.

    There are many products that have been brought in to replace lead and lead based paints. Red Lead is one of the best single pack corrosion resistant materials available as well as being a highly desirable product for timber applications it is has excellent penetrating properties into wood and greatly decreases the incidence of wood rot. Red Lead concentrate in the primer is very high, once the oil is dried the pigment ( red Lead) is infused into the timber or remains on top of metal to provide an extremely corrosion resistant barrier.

    Unfortunately it is highly toxic.Lead in even trace amounts can lead to serious brain damage or even death, I cannot re-iterate this enough. It is important to ensure correct breathing apparatus when removing red lead, by sanding. make sure you wash your hands thoroughly before smoking or eating.

    When sanding areas of a red lead primed boat, ensure other people are notified in your vicinity, as you are actually releasing a poison from which there is no repreive. If a person has already sustained mental impairment, either from excessive alcohol consumption throughout life or other mental incapacity: the ingestion of lead can cause severe problems as the brain has no other surplus capacity to compensate for the damage

    The body cannot process lead it is a cummalitive poison, whatever you ingest into your body through out your life stays there. The problem with lead is that once ingested ,the body actually thinks it is a normal mineral like iron or calcium. It then changes its form as it becomes infused into the bodies cells. It is at this point that the damage begins with deteriation of body organs.It kills off body cells that are then unable to be replaced.

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    Peter

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    Wash the lead off your hands before lighting smoke?????????????????????
    You're kidding aren't you.

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    Lewy

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    Lead the metal has a low melting point so may vapourise at cigarette temperatures. But I don't know about lead oxide.

    Maybe it is more simple that red lead on the outside of a cigarette will have all the binders etc burned up and the fine lead oxide particles will be sucked up with all the other fine particulate crap that cigarettes are designed to deliver.

    Don't think the filter might save you - guidelines are there for good reasons - and you would only be hoping you are right.

    UV supershield's information seems to be coming from somewhere ... I would tend to take some notice of it.


    MIK

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    PHP Code:
    UV supershield's information seems to be coming from somewhere 
    ... I would tend to take some notice of it.


    MIK[/quote]

    Mik,

    Many years in the Paint industry:
    • Started with Brolite Paints making batches of paint and thinners, blending products, Colour matching paints in small batches and production batches. All sorts of 2 Packs, epoxies, Urethanes, etches, S/S coatings, Aircraft coatings, Plastics coatings etc.
    • Brolite became Triton Paints, use to also manufacture a range of lead based primers under the Ferropro range and rust convertors, rust inhibitors etc
    • Taubmans Paints..all sorts
    • Topline Paints ( though I never say that to loudly ) Topline use to manufacture a range of epoxies, 2 pks, acrylic urethanes, gelcoats and sold fibreglass matt, resins etc.
    • WP Crowhurst ( Solver Paints) use to sell a range of industrial and architectural products, including 2 pk coal tar epoxies in the earlier days.
    • UV Supershield ( Australian and New Zealand Master Distributor ) Extreme Long life Fluoropolymer coating.

    Cheers
    Peter

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    yep,
    my dad,
    50years in the paint industry, non smoker non drinker not much red meat
    dead at 62 cancer
    these old paints were killers.

    astrid

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    They have been banned in naval shipyards for decades.
    Last edited by Pusser; 19th November 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason: tpying

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