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    Default New garden tap install. Will this work? Picture included

    Hi all,
    I'm helping a mate install an extra garden tap. His house has a subfloor and he wants the tap close to the meter so he wants to put a 3/4 push fit T into the 19mm copper pipe then go straight through the brick wall to the tap.
    The rest of the house has 1/2 inch copper pipe going to the tap fittings. Is it ok to run 19mm copper to a tap or is there a reason its dropped down to 1/2 inch.
    Also, below is a pic of the fittings used to create the tap. does anyone see any issues with this? The whole drilled will have to be big enough to accommodate the nut that tightens up the copper pipe to the nylon olive.
    The idea of doing it this way is that there will be no copper pipe running up the external wall and the distance from the 3/4 tee is about a meter so not too much copper pip will be needed.
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    Well there is always more than one way, but yup, it will work.
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    Probably OK until someone pulls on the hose
    Not sure why you are using the 2 elbows cause they are the weak point.

    Hose tap should be fixed/screwed to the wall with a plated wall elbow with 3 screws

    Just a moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambunctious View Post
    Probably OK until someone pulls on the hose
    Not sure why you are using the 2 elbows cause they are the weak point.

    Hose tap should be fixed/screwed to the wall with a plated wall elbow with 3 screws

    Just a moment...
    As per the original post it shows one just like that.

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    As above it will work.
    What happens when it leaks and you need to tighten the nut and increase the compression?

    My preference would be silver soldered connections until a point where compression fittings can be accessed for maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droog View Post
    As above it will work.
    What happens when it leaks and you need to tighten the nut and increase the compression?

    My preference would be silver soldered connections until a point where compression fittings can be accessed for maintenance.
    This is a valid point. Is there a wall plate that has a shaft going straight back through the brickwork? Soldering would be ideal but he would need to get a plumber in which case he may as well just get the tap installed. I think he got a quote for over $600 for this tap which is why he's wanting to do it himself. If all goes well I think he want to do anther one on the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    I think he got a quote for over $600 for this...
    Seriously!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrongwayfirst View Post
    As per the original post it shows one just like that.
    My bad, I was too busy looking at the straight thread of the compression 1/2" wall elbow screwed into the equally straight thread of the lower elbow.
    Other than that no problem.
    Not the way I would have done it either but if it don't leak then all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    Hi all,
    I'm helping a mate install an extra garden tap. His house has a subfloor and he wants the tap close to the meter so he wants to put a 3/4 push fit T into the 19mm copper pipe then go straight through the brick wall to the tap.
    I'm not sure if my assumption is correct. According to your description, if the meter is inside the subfloor, and he wants to have a garden tape outside the house or the meter is inside, but he wants a garden tap outside the house. In general, both the meter and the garden tap are both outside. If thats is the case then a garden post with tap would be a ready made solution. But I don't think thats what you described.

    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    Hi all,
    he wants to put a 3/4 push fit T into the 19mm copper pipe then go straight through the brick wall to the tap.
    The rest of the house has 1/2 inch copper pipe going to the tap fittings. Is it ok to run 19mm copper to a tap or is there a reason its dropped down to 1/2 inch.
    If you have a 19mm tap close the meter, you can imagine that when you turn on this tap, there won't be much water in any other taps which are 15mm and much further away. Not sure if that is what he wants.

    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    Hi all,
    below is a pic of the fittings used to create the tap. does anyone see any issues with this? The whole drilled will have to be big enough to accommodate the nut that tightens up the copper pipe to the nylon olive.
    The idea of doing it this way is that there will be no copper pipe running up the external wall and the distance from the 3/4 tee is about a meter so not too much copper pip will be needed.
    The best way in my view is the come straight from the tee and through the wall with a garden bib screwed in like the picture in this bunnings link. Incidentally, they said it was starting from 200 bux installed. From what you described it would have to be the simplest of situation with the right fittings and so on. if you really want to do it for him, you can look up from here on the fittings that you need plus some kind pipe riser clamp to fix the pipe through the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justonething View Post
    I'm not sure if my assumption is correct. According to your description, if the meter is inside the subfloor, and he wants to have a garden tape outside the house or the meter is inside, but he wants a garden tap outside the house. In general, both the meter and the garden tap are both outside. If thats is the case then a garden post with tap would be a ready made solution. But I don't think thats what you described.



    If you have a 19mm tap close the meter, you can imagine that when you turn on this tap, there won't be much water in any other taps which are 15mm and much further away. Not sure if that is what he wants.



    The best way in my view is the come straight from the tee and through the wall with a garden bib screwed in like the picture in this bunnings link. Incidentally, they said it was starting from 200 bux installed. From what you described it would have to be the simplest of situation with the right fittings and so on. if you really want to do it for him, you can look up from here on the fittings that you need plus some kind pipe riser clamp to fix the pipe through the wall.
    What connectors would be used to go straight through the wall as that would be ideal?
    The $200 install seems to be for just switching the actual tap itself and you buy the tap but I'll get him to check with Bunnings just in case they are a little more reasonably priced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    What connectors would be used to go straight through the wall as that would be ideal?
    Maybe this? Just a moment...

    Then suitable fittings to join it to the copper pipe.

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    I've used all-thread for brick penetrations and the end result is a rock solid tap fitting.

    I'd recommend it, costings permitting. .
    I may be weird, but I'm saving up to become eccentric.

    - Andy Mc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    What connectors would be used to go straight through the wall as that would be ideal?
    The $200 install seems to be for just switching the actual tap itself and you buy the tap but I'll get him to check with Bunnings just in case they are a little more reasonably priced.
    just a few things to consider here
    1. Type of connectors - There are two types that I'd recommend (a) sharkbite or similar compression connectors and (b) capillary silver solder fittings. I think sharkbite is easier in my view.
    2. parts - a T piece, a length of copper tube and then a female union, a garden bib, and a cover plate,
    3. pipe anchoring - can use a riser clamp for that purpose.
    4. if you are using all threads, consider a a plastic pipe sleeve as it goes through a wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan76n View Post
    I think he got a quote for over $600 for this tap which is why he's wanting to do it himself.
    here get one of these and ya still saving $500
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