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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_lees
    (For those that don't know, they deliberately torpedoed TORRENS from a Collins class sub.)

    Gumby- no, it isn't. You are mistaking the RAN for the RNZN!
    And torpedoed the submariners by building the collins class , another political decision
    I am led to believe ( disclaimer ) that when the original specs were drawn up they called for 286 computers
    so what did they install when built 286 computers though pentium 3's were available, the 286 couldn't handle the updated fire systems but they still sourced and fitted them cause thats what the specs said, of cause later replaced at taxpayer expense. How many are seaworthy today, why didn't the goverment of the day build the subs the navy asked for, politics.


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    Same happened for the ANZACs. At least they were 386s! Not sure if that has changed since I left, but they were still being built & supplied when P2s were available.

    However, at least on the other side of the coin, a 286/386 is still a powerful machine where it comes to this application. And they are built to be shock proof, tempest tested etc etc.

    Not that I am condoning the decision to write a product specific contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_lees
    However, at least on the other side of the coin, a 286/386 is still a powerful machine where it comes to this application. And they are built to be shock proof, tempest tested etc etc.
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    The problem Stuart, was (as I am led to believe) they couldn't run the updated fire control system.
    Up graded one part of the system without the rest and it didn't marry in
    Not unusual , Thats why they employ so many professionals for their Docking , safety , maintaince schedules these Days



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    Doesn't surprise me in the least - bloody green steam.

    On the Leanders, the Ikara system did it's job...just so long as the operator had a beer before trying to slow his reaction time down sufficiently.

    Pity you didn't call then experts, rather than professionals
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    I was being polite, cause we all know what an expert is



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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_lees
    Doesn't surprise me in the least - bloody green steam.

    On the Leanders, the Ikara system did it's job...just so long as the operator had a beer before trying to slow his reaction time down sufficiently.

    Pity you didn't call then experts, rather than professionals
    Thats the sort of green power I like Stuart.

    Green stem is still supreme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashore
    I was being polite, cause we all know what an expert is
    Knew you'd know

    Hard to find the boundary these days Simomatra- running diesels & GTs with green steam makes it hard to have a go at them. Much more fun back in the days when you put on overalls because you needed them!
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    thanks to the Greenie for the Greenie. I was a stoker, but all that is now ancient history (pun intended )
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    yo ho ho ye lubbers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_lees
    On the Leanders, the Ikara system did it's job...just so long as the operator had a beer before trying to slow his reaction time down sufficiently.
    Stuart, that was SeaCat mate, optic/wire guided. If you fed the bird too many commands before it go off the launcher it would generally go rogue. Ikkybirds were fire an forget...well...most of the time anyway.:eek:

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    That's the one - that brings back the memories now - getting young cooks to go feed the captain's sea cat.

    Got mixed up - appreciate the reminder!

    The sea cat used a sacrificial oil system to steer the missile - once you ran out of oil, you ran out of the ability to control it! (Not being a Greenie, I can't get more technical than that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart_lees
    That's the one - that brings back the memories now - getting young cooks to go feed the captain's sea cat.
    Yes yes..off to the canteen to get a chocolate Ikara and milk for the seacat.

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    Apart from neither the Brisbane nor the Collins class Subs being made of wood (it's the WOODEN BOAT FORUM lads) ... it appears that said subs are currently out of the water thanks to a pipe of some description not being up to the job with the possible consequences of these submarines sinking ... without bobbing back up.

    Arrrr. I know we can the things, and from time to time they've given us plenty of reason to, but they are still regarded as one of the best non-nuclear powered subs in the world.

    As a kid, I had a wooden submarine. It had a rubber band powered prop and if you wound it up properly and got the fins set at the right angle, it could dive just like a real one. Fantastic. I had hours of fun with the frustrating thing. Modern kids wouldn't even look at it if it wasn't remote controlled and could fire torpedos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddles
    Apart from neither the Brisbane nor the Collins class Subs being made of wood (it's the WOODEN BOAT FORUM lads) ...
    Trust me Richard, I tried to refloat it on Sunday, and the Brisbane WOODEN budge!

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    Heres the better photo's for you midge. Don't want to up set the wooden boat forum so only a couple posted any one who wants can PM me I have more and will get the underwatre shots soon

    Cheers sam

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