New Shed- WIP

**Doughboy** · 19th July 2006, 04:14 PM

Joel

The actpla site has a form online that you can print off and fill out at your leisure, but you will need to get the site plans drawn up by a drafts person. We used JKR Designs in holt. She is good and thorough and not too $$$. things that need to be shown are NGL (natural ground level) distances from existing buildings and fences, positioning of easements and if the shed is to replace an existing shed then the demolition and removal of the present one needs to be documented also.

BTW if you are planning on installing a water tank do not apply foir the rebate from the government because they will happily give youa pitance of a rebate and then you will receive a bill every year for water catchment. Yes they charge you for using your own house/shed roof to use as garden water because you no longer use water they can charge for... an absolute rort if i have ever seen one!!

Pete

**A192K** · 20th July 2006, 09:23 AM

Hi
my thoughts are that if you go to 2.7 with a 15 deg pithched roof you will actually have about 3.0 MT at its peak,and beleive me unless you are building a factory its about as big as the shed companies go.you could design and purchase all the steel from a Metal Merchant and build yourself.
in regards to Council Approval.get your neighbors to sign a Letter that you have drafted giving you permission to erect a shed,if they wont sign it that sort of gives you a heads up as to their intent.and if it is signed well normally its a small walk through council to have it approved
good luck

**JDub** · 25th July 2006, 10:15 AM

Ok, here is a sketch of site and what it looks like the final dimensions will be.... 6m long, 3.5m wide, 2.4 high.

Have told SWMBO may cost a touch more than $5k and she didnt protest too much

Only condition I have is that the backyard landscaping is finished first.....

Looks like my new workshop is at least 6 months off :eek:

**Glenn_M** · 25th July 2006, 10:29 AM

I've got the same size almost (6 x 3.6) If you can go to 2.7 high then I would highly recommend it. Cost me less than $100 extra for the higher walls and it makes so much difference.

These are not big sheds and the extra height gives a feeling of not being so enclosed. Also provides for wall space for hanging things (storage a real issue in small sheds).

Also in hotter times the heat radiated internally by sun on the roof can be vicious. Having that roof higher on sunny days is the best reason I reckon.

Also appears to have better air circulation due to the greater volume.

Just a few thoughts. Cheers.

**JDub** · 25th July 2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Glenn_M

I've got the same size almost (6 x 3.6) If you can go to 2.7 high then I would highly recommend it. Cost me less than $100 extra for the higher walls and it makes so much difference.

Thanks for the input

I am concerned that if I go 2.7 high it will look like an massive industrial shed in my backyard....:confused:

**JDub** · 27th July 2006, 10:22 AM

Things to look for when shopping for a shed....

Height options (cost re: 2.4 v 2.7m)
Does it come with plans for council?
Does it come with detailed Plans for DIY construction?
Cost with and without Slab?
Guttering etc included?
Cost of roof insulation?
Deilvery charges?

Am I missing anything?

**echnidna** · 27th July 2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by JDub

Things to look for when shopping for a shed....

Height options (cost re: 2.4 v 2.7m)
Does it come with plans for council?
Does it come with detailed Plans for DIY construction?
Cost with and without Slab?
Guttering etc included?
Cost of roof insulation?
Deilvery charges?

Am I missing anything?

yep - cost of a timber floor instead of a slab

**A192K** · 31st July 2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by JDub

Things to look for when shopping for a shed....

Height options (cost re: 2.4 v 2.7m)
costs about 800 more

Does it come with plans for council?
it can but of course you will pay shed company

Does it come with detailed Plans for DIY construction?
i know Totalspan does,others i cant say(but if sold as DIY then it must

Cost with and without Slab?
slab costs about 60-70 dollars a square @100mm thick (in Qld that is)

Guttering etc included?
gutters are part of kit

Cost of roof insulation?
mine cost 400 dollars for 6x4 (foil bubble type)

i did all the walls and that was about 60sq mts of 3.5 bats,as well as builders paper

as for flooring,i laid 6mm exterior ply on concrete floor,then i have put some old parquetry on top of that just to use it up,all i have done is sanded it and a quick cote of oil,

Deilvery charges?
depends how far from CBD you are,my shed cost 150 to be delivered

Am I missing anything?

lights,
sub board,
3 phase cabling/sockets?
GP 1.5 /1.0 cable
switches,lights,plugs,15A sockets
locks
fastners
whirlybird
if insulated,will you have interior walls?
what kind of entry doors will you have?
communication with main house?
wirless support?
tv antenna?
bar fridge?( amust to impress your mates)

then start to fill it with tools/machinery,

hope this helps
cheers

**JDub** · 31st July 2006, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by A192K

lights,
switches,lights,plugs

Plan to run all the cabling, mount the fluros and power outlets then get a sparky to wire up and check.

locks

Keyed personal access door is a must for me (I hate padlocks)

fastners

for the construction of the shed you mean? I assume they would come with kit....

whirlybird

Hopefully not necessary

if insulated,will you have interior walls?

Not planning to insulate walls at this stage, just the roof to stop condensation and direct heat on roof.

what kind of entry doors will you have?

1 single keyed personal access door, 1 roller door

communication with main house?

Mobile phone for emergencies

apart from that I dont want to make it too easy to call me in

bar fridge?( amust to impress your mates)

Might have to move the beer fridge from the laundry.... nah, will just get another one. You cant have too many beer fridges can you

then start to fill it with tools/machinery,

:eek:

Not sure if I should go with a window or not.... probably should I guess

Cheers
Joel

**JDub** · 14th August 2006, 01:58 PM

Ok, being doing some shopping

Will definately be going 6.0 x 3.5 x 2.7 high

Roller door, Personal Access door and single Window.

Have got 3 quotes and all of them are within $100 of $3500.

Will also get roof insulation (an extra couple of hundred)

I was most impressed with the service and comprehensiveness (is that a word

) of the Fair Dinkum shed range and local distributer. Totalspan were also pretty good but will probably go with Fair Dinkum.
Was very unimpressed with the local Ranbuild distributor.

Uncle is a draftsmen so he is doing the site plan for me, brother in law is a concreter so if I can drag his lazy #### away from 'Fishing Australia' on a weekend he will do the slab.
Getting quotes on the site prep in the next couple of weeks.

Only issue is because I am going 500mm with the boundry fence council requires me to go through a public notification process that can take up to three months :eek: Arrr well at least something is happening!!!

**Dean** · 14th August 2006, 10:18 PM

FWIW, I just put in an order for a 9m x 5m x 2.7m (H) shed with TotalSpan a week or two ago.

At the time, they were the cheapest option among Titan, Sheds Online, Ranbuild, and just about every other shed place I got a quote from. Doesn't mean they are the cheapest for every size of course!

Slab is supposed to go in about about 2 weeks from now, with the shed shortly after.

Meanwhile, I'm digging out the turf and levelling the site manually with a shovel (used all the budget on the shed)

**E. maculata** · 14th August 2006, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dean

Meanwhile, I'm digging out the turf and levelling the site manually with a shovel

I fully sympathasis with you Dean, hopefully it's not too hard a going at your joint, as I'm currently demolishing a couple of mid size garden sheds, removed a decades old chook shed and associated vines on the weekend so I can continue with my slab prep, formwork, hopefully the pour in 2-4 weeks, also need to deal with highly reactive soil issues.

Note to other forumites, if you are ever tempted to ensconce your sheds base within a deep layer of structural grade concrete..............DON'T some poor beggar will one day be trying to remove it from said concrete prison

**glock40sw** · 15th August 2006, 07:46 PM

G'day All.
I went for 3.0M wall height.
Plenty of room under a loft timber storage area.

Also have storage on top of the dunny for storing chrissy lights and associated chrissy stuff.
The other side has a loft metal storage area.
3 metre walls allows for the installation of a 2 post car hoist in the near future.

**RufflyRustic** · 16th August 2006, 09:46 AM

HWMBO got my hopes up yesterday for getting my shed this year. Then they got dashed when I showed him the actual pricing I'd estimated (based on good research of course).

Seems like it's time to go round all the shed places and get an updated quote.

Especially now that this thread has highlighted all the other bits that a shed should have, guttering etc etc.

I'm really appreciating this thread. Would love to know of any tips/hints/heads up points you guys come across while getting your sheds set up.

cheers
Wendy

**JDub** · 16th August 2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by rufflyrustic

I'm really appreciating this thread. Would love to know of any tips/hints/heads up points you guys come across while getting your sheds set up.

cheers
Wendy

Will document the process and what it costs me here as I go along Wendy

As you can see above I took the advice of the good people on this forum and have decieded on 2.7 high, difference between 2.4 is only $140.

Im getting the bobcat in next week to do some work in my backyard so I am getting him to prepare the site whilst he is there. He is doing the site prep and also some unrelated excavation work. He will be there for half a day and will have to take some soil/fill away.
Cost= $400 cash.

My uncle is doing the site plans for me (hes a draftsmen) Cost= $bottle of plonk or case'o'beer.

Due to the public notification needed etc, It will be about 3-4 months before the shed actually goes up I think.... So I have plenty of time to document the process

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