New Shed- WIP

**JDub** · 17th July 2006, 05:21 PM

Hi all,

Due a new addition to the family our triple car brick garage wont come into existance for many years to come.

So I have been given pre-approval for a new workshop in the backyard

Budget is around $5k max.

As I said its to go in the backyard so no vechile access required, purely storage and workshop area.
The area is a difficult access site but I think it can be overcome. Part of The area is next to a 0.7 retaining wall that seperates the gravel driveway at the front from the backyard. So any excavation/levelling and concrete pouring should be able to be done from the ground/driveway area in front over the wall through part of the fence which is to be temporaily removed?

I have attached a pic of the area. The existing 2.5 x 4m shed (my current workshop) is to stay and be converted to storage or garden equipment shed.

I want the new shed to back onto the old shed. The area available is about 7x4m but taking into account leaving 1m from the boundry this leaves 6x4m.

I was thinking one of the totalspan workshops in 3.5x 4.4 or 3.5 x 5.3 but I am yet to get a quote:
http://www.totalspan.com.au/domestic/workshops.asp

Sorry about the long post....

Thoughts on any or all of the above?

Cheers
Joel

**Harry72** · 17th July 2006, 08:11 PM

Total's have a garage thats 6x4 like you need?(bigger is better)

Give shed's online a try they have an online pricing... they'll custom you one 8mX4m by 2.4m high full colourbond for $4387!(take out the old one...)
www.shedsonline.com.au

**JDub** · 18th July 2006, 10:02 AM

Gday Harry,

Thanks for the reply. Taking out the old one isnt really an option as its on a slightly different level (about a foot lower) so the cost of removing the slab then excavating further down etc wouldnt be worth it, plus Ive fitted out my little workshop well and it would make a good storage shed for all the garden gear and kids crap

Ive got a while to plan this so I will continue to shop around and weigh up my options.

Anyone in the ACT have any idea what the cost of approval for these things are? and a normal time frame? (cant be arsed ringing the dept and being put on hold for 3 hours just yet

)

Ive seen on the ACT dept planning website that sheds that have a roof area less than 10m2 are exempt from approval but I want something about twice that size.

Cheers
Joel

**JDub** · 18th July 2006, 11:07 AM

Found this cheap range as well.....

http://www.shed.com.au/Pages/Workshops.htm

6x3m in colourbond only $1790..... Just the 2.06m wall height bothers me a little (although Im not exactly tall at 5'7") although if its significantly cheaper I might learn live with it

?

**RufflyRustic** · 18th July 2006, 01:02 PM

I'm about 5'7 and find my garden shed height way to short for comfort. I'd much prefer 2.7 m as a minimum height, but I too, appreciate the $ side of the shed-buying decision.

cheers
Wendy

**JDub** · 18th July 2006, 02:03 PM

Wendy, out of curiosity what is the height of your current workshop?

**RufflyRustic** · 18th July 2006, 05:24 PM

Umm, 2.06 metres? It's one of those small backyard zinc sheds
http://www.usq.edu.au/users/hoeyw/im...whereiwork.JPG

Everytime I walk in the solar kiln (ice box for winter) I tend to duck my head a little, I don't need to but I just do.

Trying to store 2400 lengths of dar or moulding is near impossible too.

(probably due to everything else I've jammed in there

)

It's horribly hot in summer as my head is too close to the roof, hence me wanting a 2.7 m shed height minimum.

cheers
Wendy

**E. maculata** · 18th July 2006, 06:55 PM

G'day everyone, I've just paid for a new woodworking/ reno shed, (already have a mechanical workshop for the bikes etc

) just waiting for it to be manufactured ATM. Ranbuild good quality, good rep, excellent deals on at the time, around 1/2 of the original quotes I got a few months back.
So give them a yell, did me one heck of a deal

.

Will also back what Wendy stated, used to have a 6x3 workshop in Zinc, way way way too hot.

**ernknot** · 19th July 2006, 03:15 AM

Look in the cassifieds, many times there is someone who wants a reasonably good shed removed ( don't know why) you could get a better size and maybe for free. give it a shot.

**JDub** · 19th July 2006, 10:55 AM

Cheers,

Think I will try to go with the 2.4 height....
I have sent the attached pic of what I want to a few companys and will see what I get back..... :eek:

Cheers
Joel

**Wild Dingo** · 19th July 2006, 01:19 PM

Something that size shouldnt be too hard to come by mate... as Wendy has said look at the height!!

Im 5ft 6 and a bit and although mines 2.6 high its too small!!... see once you stick a loft rack type thing up for your timber storage your height comes down... you also have to have height room for the bloody great bandsaw you will need to buy soon and so one of them low ones would be useless so... look to height!!

In the case of workshops I think BIG is better... get the biggest you can hieght length width big is best... you are gonna fill it pretty quick then what? you will be like everyone else here yellin "HELP me flamin ubeaut new sheds too friggin small"... ooh right thats me

okay so in your first pic you show a backyard but say you only have a small area available for the shed?... why?... I mean mate!!! You got a front yard right? so theres the missus's garden area! She doesnt need two garden areas now does she! No she doesnt... and buy her a clothes dryer and toss the hills hoist (note here offset your costs and sell it

) if shes really persistant in wanting a clothes line get one of those ones that attach to the wall of the house and fold away against the wall when not in use... kids have a trampolene out there? toss it! theyre dangerous things trampolenes hurt kids they do so toss it what else? sandpit? dangerous things sandpits cats phiss in them!! deseases mate! you dont need one so toss it... so now what have we got there? THE WHOLE BACKYARD!! WHAHOOOOOOOOO!!! Bloody big balltearer of a shed!!... THINK BIG SHED mate

Think timber storage think tool spacial areas think more timber storage think more tools... gawd mate THINK BIG SHED!!!

There is absolutely NOTHING worse than getting a shed that ends up bein to small and you end up irritated annoyed and frustrated so much you head out there and sit in the moanin chair in the tight corner wedged between the oscillating sander and the bench cryin in your beer and brie cause you "thought" a smaller shed would do

... ooh right thats me

**JDub** · 19th July 2006, 02:36 PM

:eek: LOL

I think there are some issues you really need to sit down and work through with someone Dingo, BTW Im not volunteering....

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

Something that size shouldnt be too hard to come by mate... as Wendy has said look at the height!!

Righto Im convinced, you've frightend me into it. I Will go the extra height, but it will put the plans off a bit longer as it will cost me a couple of large more but hey, dont want to end up with deep seated emotional issues and risk contracting low shed syndrome like yourself.

and buy her a clothes dryer and toss the hills hoist (note here offset your costs and sell it

) if shes really persistant in wanting a clothes line get one of those ones that attach to the wall of the house and fold away against the wall when not in use...

Already done both of those

There is absolutely NOTHING worse than getting a shed that ends up bein to small and you end up irritated annoyed and frustrated so much you head out there and sit in the moanin chair in the tight corner wedged between the oscillating sander and the bench cryin in your beer and brie cause you "thought" a smaller shed would do

... ooh right thats me

What you have room for a chair? your lucky

In my current 4x2.5 excuse for a workshop I sit on my little workbench with half the vice up me clacker.

Id better start saving hey?

Joel

**Doughboy** · 19th July 2006, 02:59 PM

Hey JDub with regards to the mob at the planning and land blah blah blah in Dickson they are slow... slow ... slow. I wanted approval for a 7m x 7m x 2.7 workshop and it took six weeks for the mongrels to tell me my neighbour was afraid i would turn it into a furniture business, i am a chef and barely have time to scratch my #### so when i am sposed to do all my furniture making i am not sure:confused: ......oops i digress. Palm are slow but if you are within all the regulations then it should be fine.
BTW I had nearly finished organising my workshop when my wife decided she wanted to buy a bigger house... so now i am starting all over again:eek:. Dont choose small for money sake cos in the end you will kick yourself for being an idiot and then you will spend more money on what you should have got in the first place...

Pedro

**JDub** · 19th July 2006, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Doughboy

Hey JDub with regards to the mob at the planning and land blah blah blah in Dickson they are slow... slow ... slow. I wanted approval for a 7m x 7m x 2.7 workshop and it took six weeks for the mongrels to tell me my neighbour was afraid i would turn it into a furniture business, i am a chef and barely have time to scratch my #### so when i am sposed to do all my furniture making i am not sure:confused: ......oops i digress. Palm are slow but if you are within all the regulations then it should be fine.

Thanks for the heads up Pedro, I will allow plenty of time....

Do you have a copy of the regulations or do you know where to find em? I had a look on the ACT land and planning authority website but cant find them for looking.....

Need to know things like distance from boundry, whether they require connection to stormwater etc etc.

Cheers
Joel

**Auzzie turner** · 19th July 2006, 03:36 PM

I'm 6 foot 1 inch, and my shed is 8 foot high. Usually I have 1 to 1 and a half feet of sawdust on the floor, leaves me with around half a foot above my head. I'll have to either get rid of the sawdust, or get a higher roof. I think you should get a roof around 2.8 meters high.

Regards.....Joash

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