Thread: How do Others Feel?

Just a small input from me.

The idea of auto notification is a really good one however it has 1 major draw back which is the bane of my life and a real pain in the but.

When an email notification is sent and not delivered it is bounced back to my inbox. I often get as many a 50 or more of these bounced emails per day.

Some are because email addresses have been changed and not updated. Some people change email addresses as often as they change their underware.

Some are because paranoia has people screwing up their security so high that almost no emails get through.

And others have servers that won't let any automated responses through. Email notification is an automated response.

Have tried everything to fix this ongoing problem but it's pretty much impossible, 37 returned email so far for today till 10am and each has to be dealt with.

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I have to agree that it is very frustrating not to receive a thanks or any acknowledgement at all for help, but even more so to have the advice given by others completely ignored or challenged by the question asker, which has happened on a number of occasions, then having that same person coming on a few times asking for advice on the same subject and continuing to ignore all advice given by others.
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Cheers - Neil

Maybe set up a folder and a filter Neil so that the emails are redirected into that specific folder out of the road rather than jumbled with more legitimate emails?

If its in C-Panel then may use another email address for that particular task and run it straight into your email client into a new folder (bounce)?

I'm new and my experience is that I've started a thread and had one response but it has gone no further. Without a response it is like talking to no one so the impetus is halted.
However, I have been checking regularly for responses. If I continue to contribute to this particular thread for the next month or so and still no response then I will close it off as it is plain no one is interested.

The internet is a funny thing. Its easy to assume. As for boats especially wooden ones are very specialist topic. Its not a bad concept if people don't comment rather than speculate thats if they have even checked the copper nail area of the forum.
Its easy to feel a bit gyped about internet culture with an assumption that people cant be bothered especially when you start out.
Put it down to people don't know. They're not being rude, more likely polite.

hi all. this is a great thread and think it should be a sticky by way of an introduction to who you guys are.
i only really found this site the other day and already i have got a lot from it merely by following the recent posts.
advice here looks great. had a look at a post about how steep to landscape a bank. what a lot of stuff there that i didnt know! now i do ) or at least where to look.
in respect to that level of advice, i will tend to keep my mouth shut unless i really need to know something and i cant find it by searching, or i actually know what i type. luckily i do know some stuff so i hope i will be of some use. i am here somewhere though...
when i ask a queston, it will have thanks included in the original question, and they will be sincere. even if only one person read a post and still they dont reply, then the thanks is for them. sometimes threads can generate very useful discussions that can give you many points of view to consider. but also, sometimes the offerings of some people is not worthy of thanks.
anyway, hello, my name is mike, and it is really nice to see people that are nice. a couple of jokers as well - awesome
ps how do you subscribe to a thread?

Originally Posted by MikeCollett

ps how do you subscribe to a thread?

Hi Mike and welcome to the forums.

Top right of the thread you'll see a "Thread Tools" menu. Drop that down and hit "Subscribe to this Thread" link. You can then select how often you want to be notified.

damn im blind. thank half a bottle of rum for that. and thanks to you affro boy for that info

Welcome to the forum Mike,

I certainly wouldn't expect a thanks for each reply but some people only have one post which consists of a question that was well answered by many clever people with no trace of the original poster.

It won't put me off answering new forum members but I am afraid it could put others off answering genuine enquiries because of a few self centred few newbies.

Perhaps Neil could prevent those who couldn't give a stuff and/or those who are just plain ignorant from logging in or posting until they have fixed up their EMAIL addresses. I think they need this BB far more than Neil needs the bouncing back EMAILs.

Frankly my dear I don't give a damm , I try to answer any question that I think may help , sometimes you post an answer and another more knowledgable forum member gives a far better more accurate answer or in a much easier format to understand.
I thought the whole Idea of the forum was to help others whenever you could and in turn if you ask a question be given advise from other forum members more skilled or who had come across the problem previously and were willing to tell how they overcame it , the information may not always be accurate ( regardless of what the poster may think ) or be suitable for every circumstance but is freely given
Sometimes I have recieved Greenies or PM's from people I have helped rather then posting their thanks on the open forum or PM's asking for more detail , and sometimes a diffrent sort of PM from al those who thought otherwise, but what ever, If I think I can help I will try to do so and I think that is one of the corner stones that has made this forum the best , If you want ticks and pats on the back then there are other forums that do that but are usually so strict that most of us would be banned if we posted the usual stuff within the first week
For me if a newbee posts a qustion on their first post , gets the propper answer and never posts again then that loss is more than made up by those that post the question get the answer and become regular members and add their knowledge to the collective pool

I'm certainly not expecting a greenie or nominations for the woodworker of the year - not even a personal thanks. Anyone who gives answers for their own personal glory, I think is participating for the wrong reasons.

Quite often it is the collective responses that give detailed but broad solutions rather than the individual responses - similar to the information you may seek from books on a subject.

A simple "thanks for all the suggestions, they were useful" would suffice. But to never hear from that person ever again on the Bulletin Board is a bit rich.

It's a little bit like asking someone for directions. They take the time to give an answer but the person then walks away without saying anything in reply.

The internet is different, sure, but a lot of folks expect
a response to either acknowledge the help or some sort of reply that indicates the question has been adequately answered, effectively closing the thread. Without it the thread still seems open, and replies continue to be given.

I've just had an example of a person who asked my advice by email. I sent what I could by return email and received no acknowledgment that the info had arrived. I sent a PM to confirm receipt and received no response to that either. I try to help when I can, but this has made me think twice about helping other forumites in future. Civil courtesy surely isn't dead.

LGS,

I understand how you feel - extremely angry, disappointed and upset.

To let these ignorant self centred people influence your response to others especially newbies means that you have joined the ranks of the moronic and abandoned your personal philosophy - not good.

Punish the self centred individual who is unnecessarily taking up space on this planet by ignoring their future pleas for assistance.

I don't think you should pre-judge and consequently punish those who are most likely generous and reasonable people just because of the minority of idiots.

Some might say I am talking like a pathetic soft wimp.

No, I strongly detest and go out of my way to make the life of selfish people a misery.

I am the type of person who would goad a padeophile into jumping off a tall building just so I had something to pi$$ on.

A stranger in need of help - never a problem.

Email ISN'T always fast. Not everyone religiously checks it on a regular basis. There are also other reasons that a response may not have been sent including time constraints.

PM's are even slower in many instances as many don't receive email notification of a PM being sent and will only find it when logging on here and even then if they have popups blocked, a newbie may have trouble finding it or even realising they have one.

As said before in this thread many emails especially form here don't always get through because of firewalls, filters etc. I'm currently averaging around 35-40 returned or refused delivery notices per day.

send me the persons or username and I'll check if it was returned.

EMAILS AREN'T INSTANT.... For me they're often a pain in the bum. I'd happily pay the cost of a phone call rather then respond to emails that are often very, very, time consuming and almost never contain all the information needed, resulting in more time consuming replies. I'm sure I'm not the only one, who feels like this, especially if you're a busy person or in business.

Cheers - Neil

Originally Posted by ubeaut

PM's are even slower in many instances as many don't receive email notification of a PM being sent and will only find it when logging on here and even then if they have popups blocked, a newbie may have trouble finding it or even realising they have one.

That's why an earlier system of PM's was great as you could see when the recipient opened/read the PM.


Peter.

Yeap, you have to be a bit patient with computers & the Internet.

They may have internet problems, we often lost it for 6 days at a time up here.

They may have computer problems, it took me more than a month to get one mother board replaced under warranty.

They may also have been hit by a truck & are currently lying in hospital looking at the ceiling.

Have you seen the alleged offender log on here since?