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    Quote Originally Posted by poundy View Post
    So I am still not seeing emails either, and I have not heard anyone confirm they HAVE seen an email?

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    So I am still not seeing emails either, and I have not heard anyone confirm they HAVE seen an email?
    I’m receiving them since changing email address, sometimes repeated a minute apart with a duplicate post within the post separated by -Updated- as above.

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    would you mind passing me a copy of one? If possible, I'd like an unedited version so i can see the real mail headers as they arrived to you. my email address is <snip> (I'll edit this post in the next 23 hours to remove that )
    Last edited by poundy; 2nd Aug 2019 at 07:05 PM. Reason: removed email address as expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by poundy View Post
    would you mind passing me a copy of one? If possible, I'd like an unedited version so i can see the real mail headers as they arrived to you. )
    Sent.

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    recieved ! Reply pending though

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    recieved ! Reply pending though

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    I am currently subscribed to 8 forums. All are set to report updates daily.
    Those I do receive daily are:
    Bandsaws
    Wanted & wanted to buy
    For sale on ebay etc

    Those I do not receive are:
    Timber Sales & milling equipment (last received 15 june)
    Furniture, joinery, cabinetmaking ( last received 15 june)
    Triton/GMC (last received 14 June)
    Woodwork, Tools & machinery (last received 14 June)
    Swap or Free (last received 21 feb)

    My ISP is iinet and denies blocking anything.
    I have just changed my email address to see if that makes a difference, but so far not - still with iinet though.

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    I did get the headers from the email that apple8 got, so I have some info, but haven't had a look to see if I think there's a reputation issue that are coming into play.... but Chrism3's experience seems to imply to me that there's something going wrong with only some of the messages being processed (eg a script not working consistently when it processes different parts of the staggered emailing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by poundy View Post
    I did get the headers from the email that apple8 got, so I have some info, but haven't had a look to see if I think there's a reputation issue that are coming into play.... but Chrism3's experience seems to imply to me that there's something going wrong with only some of the messages being processed (eg a script not working consistently when it processes different parts of the staggered emailing)
    Poundy,
    faulty script processing is one possibility, but another is that the one's I am not receiving are the larger volume ones, and my ISP may be blocking them on suspicion of being spam. My system is set up to tag incoming Spam but still deliver it. But I never receive any tagged spam, so my ISP's email filtering may not be working the way it is supposed to - i surely can't be the only person in Aus who doesn't get spam!!?
    I have tried to press them on this point but so far have received a blank wall response.This is the reason I asked Neil for a breakdown of relative volumes in my earlier post above.
    Chris

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    I am no expert on spam, but most times an appropriate SPF setup and IP address records should allow filters to know this is legitimate (but bulk) email. So I'd not really expect two different emails coming via the same path to your mail server to be classified differently; but it certainly is possible.

    Anyway, below are the headers for a mail recieved to a standard mail account at the Internode mail system. You can see that the IronPort interpretation was this was spam, but it was still then delivered to the mailbox. The one thing that I would consider worth looking at is whether this reverse IP setup is causing issues:
    209.95.48.51.static.midphase.com (HELO www3.ubeaut.com.au)


    I would change the HELO to be
    static.midphase.com rather than ubeaut unless you can get the PTR record altered, as that seems to be a most often reverse DNS check that this would fail.

    Below the latest one is a header from my Hotmail account, from the last message I recieved from the forum (14 June). There's a different IP address stamping in there,
    49.181.174.40, that might have been previously running the scripts or the website? Anyway, not sure it leads to much more enlightenment, but including it here for Steven and team for reference.

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    X-default-received-spf pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=150.101.137.141;
    Received
    from ipmail03.adl2.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.141]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 7.3i2) with ESMTP id 17107844-1927428 for <
    cut-address@internet
    >; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 17:37:18 +0930 (ACST)
    from 209.95.48.51.static.midphase.com (HELO www3.ubeaut.com.au) ([209.95.48.51]) by ipmailmx03.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2019 17:37:11 +0930
    from woodwork by www3.ubeaut.com.au with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <noreply@woodworkforums.com>) id 1htSae-00084M-Hf for
    cut-address@internet
    ; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:07:09 +1000

    Return-path <noreply@woodworkforums.com>
    X-ironport-anti-spam-filtered true
    X-ironport-anti-spam-result A0D0hwBO3/JbZDMwX9FIGh0CCwIFgWYCAYIkAQM/BUohEicKKoJ9R4h3ix0BgQiBOQGDDIoziVWCCwaESgIChBE5BQwBAwEBAgEBAgUcCwoFHQ4jDEIBAQEBAgEIAoUTDwEbCDggAgUEDw4CESIILAcVDASDAYEgYQ80pwKBHBOELQEDBoEAg16BB4ELixE+gUGEI4JvLAQYgQ9IPYI3glcCgSieRwkCgWI7gRaNZyMQgUiFCIodOJk8gUMcDghwfhpWgU8IgWkBhBWKZDAwAQkFD4JDgwVIhw8BgR4BAQ
    X-ironport-spam Suspect-SPAM
    X-ironport-av E=Sophos;i="5.56,253,1539610200"; d="scan'208";a="156050431"
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    cut-address@internet
    Subject Reply to thread 'not receiving emails from subscribed threads'
    X-php-script www.woodworkforums.com/dbseo.php for 61.69.84.166
    From "Woodwork Forums" <webmaster@woodworkforums.com>
    Auto-submitted auto-generated
    Message-id <20190802080704.2258b2aca228@www.woodworkforums.com>
    Mime-version 1.0
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    Content-transfer-encoding 8bit
    X-priority 3
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    Date Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:07:04 +1000
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    Primary Hostname - www3.ubeaut.com.au
    Original Domain -
    cut-address@internet
    Originator/Caller UID/GID - [501 508] / [47 12]
    Sender Address Domain - woodworkforums.com

    X-get-message-sender-via www3.ubeaut.com.au: authenticated_id: woodwork/from_h
    X-authenticated-sender www3.ubeaut.com.au: webmaster@woodworkforums.com
    X-rcpt-to <cut-address@internet>
    X-spamdetect ****: 4.000000 IronPort detected Suspected Spam=14.0, IronPort SPAM scanned=-10.0
    X-notascii charset=utf-8
    X-langguess English
    X-ip-stats Incoming Last 1, First 213, in=222, out=0, spam=0 ip=209.95.48.51

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    Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 209.95.48.51)
    smtp.mailfrom=woodworkforums.com; hotmail.com; dkim=none (message not signed)
    header.d=none;hotmail.com; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none
    header.from=woodworkforums.com;
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    designates 209.95.48.51 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com;
    client-ip=209.95.48.51; helo=www3.ubeaut.com.au;
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    Subject: "snip" updateX-PHP-Script: www.woodworkforums.com/cron.php for 49.181.174.40From: Woodwork Forums <webmaster@woodworkforums.com>Auto-Submitted: auto-generatedMessage-ID: <20190614002532.445d9201bbb9@www.woodworkforums.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Mailer: vBulletin Mail via PHPDate: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:25:32 +1000X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse reportX-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www3.ubeaut.com.auX-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.comX-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [501 508] / [47 12]X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - woodworkforums.comX-Get-Message-Sender-Via: www3.ubeaut.com.au: authenticated_id: woodwork/from_hX-Authenticated-Sender: www3.ubeaut.com.au: webmaster@woodworkforums.comX-IncomingHeaderCount: 21Return-Path: noreply@woodworkforums.comX-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTime: 14 Jun 2019 00:25:39.2588 (UTC)X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTimeReason: OriginalSubmitX-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationInterval: 1:00:00:00.0000000X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationIntervalReason: OriginalSubmitX-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id: 4bd4747d-6daa-4368-811a-08d6f05ed3ecX-EOPAttributedMessage: 0X-EOPTenantAttributedMessage: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa:0X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: IncomingX-Forefront-Antispam-Report: EFV:NLI;X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: VE1EUR03FT003.eop-EUR03.prod.protection.outlook.comX-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: AnonymousX-MS-PublicTrafficType: EmailX-MS-UserLastLogonTime: 6/14/2019 12:23:15 AMX-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 4bd4747d-6daa-4368-811a-08d6f05ed3ecX-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID2390118)(5000113)(711020)(4605104)(610169)(650170)(8291501072);SRVR:VE1EUR03HT106;X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: VE1EUR03HT106:X-MS-Exchange-PUrlCount: 3X-MS-Exchange-EOPDirect: trueX-Sender-IP: 209.95.48.51X-SID-PRA: WEBMASTER@WOODWORKFORUMS.COMX-SID-Result: PASS

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    Poundy,
    I'll let an expert deal with that, and I appreciate your efforts. I should point out that it's only daily updates that don't reach me, all other conversations take place normally - if I post to a thread i receive thread messages.
    Chris.

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    I've just changed my address to gmail - will see if that makes a difference tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrism3 View Post
    I've just changed my address to gmail - will see if that makes a difference tomorrow.
    Hi there

    I've moved forum mail back to amazon SES a short while ago. You should find your original address is ok

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    Hi there

    I've moved forum mail back to amazon SES a short while ago. You should find your original address is ok

    thanks
    Whoa, there's the first emails I've seen in a while

    Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 54.240.8.242) smtp.mailfrom=forums.woodworkforums.com; hotmail.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified) header.d=woodworkforums.com;hotmail.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=woodworkforums.com;Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of forums.woodworkforums.com designates 54.240.8.242 as permitted sender)

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    Hi there

    I've moved forum mail back to amazon SES a short while ago. You should find your original address is ok

    thanks
    'll see what happens with gmail tomorrow first. If Ok there I'll switch my email back and compare.
    I

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    Nothing this morning via gmail, but it looks like there weren't any posts to my subscribed forums yesterday.

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    Nothing at all on gmail all day as at 21:42 - have the daily updates been sent yet?

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