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  1. #91
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    I realise Neil's and other mods' minds have been focused on the recent show in Melbourne, but how are things progressing behind the scenes now the show has been and gone? Is the current state of the forum as good as it's going to be, or are further improvements in the pipeline? Can I ask what was behind the recent forum downgrade? Was the previous incarnation broken and really required 'fixing'?

    I am becoming disenchanted with the whole experience: No longer being able to select which forums/sub forums appear on the desktop means having to drill down through dozens of threads on topics I have absolutely no interest in. In the absence of any improvements, I have decided to minimize the first four forums (FORUMS HELP DESK, FREE STUFF PRIZE DRAWS, FINISHING & RESTORATION and WOODTURNING FORUMS) and I now just click on WOODWORK - GENERAL when visiting the site rather than clicking on New Posts. This also allows me to avoid the eight or so sub forums under WOODWORKING FORUMS - GENERAL that I have no interest in. Sure, I'm limiting my enjoyment of a few other sub forums and I will obviously not be contributing to those forums (some might consider this a blessing), but it comes down to a balance between available time and frustration/enjoyment. Another benefit of this approach is when I click on Forum Tools in WOODWORK - GENERAL and then click Mark This Forum read, it actually works! Clicking Forum Actions on the desktop and then clicking Mark Forums Read doesn't work.

    I am running FF 16.0.2 and Windows 7 (and don't experience a single problem on any other vBulletin forums I visit). Can you do a restore to the previous version... please!
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    I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.


    Regards, Woodwould.

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    Thanks WW I thought it was just me having problems and hating the new slow as a wet week version.

    Missing in most across the top selections is Quick links.

    Every page, section is slow to load.

    Photos are taking for ever to load not just the first one but each one when clicking to enlarge.

    Smillies if I open for more I have to drag and drop clicking doesn't work.

  4. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post

    When I reply to posts (including this one!) " Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....



    yep it has happened heaps to me as well

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    Default my problem seems to be IE8 or 9

    I have had a number of issues with posting etc I'll catalogue them here hopefully they may shed some light for the webmaster.

    In XP Pro with IE 8 I have had freezing when posting and recovery messages from IE8 about its difficulty with the site. Also once 'cannot post comment to short'. But then IE8 has been freezing on me elsewhere as well.

    In Win 7 Family edition and IE 9 its all but given up the ghost. So much so I have gone to Chrome and it seems fine to date.
    Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working. — Pablo Picasso


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    Quote Originally Posted by hughie View Post
    I have had a number of issues with posting etc I'll catalogue them here hopefully they may shed some light for the webmaster.

    In XP Pro with IE 8 I have had freezing when posting and recovery messages from IE8 about its difficulty with the site. Also once 'cannot post comment to short'. But then IE8 has been freezing on me elsewhere as well.

    In Win 7 Family edition and IE 9 its all but given up the ghost. So much so I have gone to Chrome and it seems fine to date.
    As I understand it, the powers that be have given up on trying to sort problems with IE on this site. Neil recommends changing to FireFox. (I didn't want to, it doesn't suit my purposes as well as IE, but had to install Firefox as a second browser to make it worth coming here at all.)
    Unfortunately, using two browsers, the Favorites/Bookmarks need to be manually synced on a regular basis, to keep copies of all links in both browsers.

    Overall I agree with the general sentiment. I wish the upgrade had never happened. I'd only just joined when all this happened, so barely got a taste of the old forum version, but it was much better. Like many software upgrades, this was a serious backward step for the site.

    Don't come here so much any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughie View Post
    I have had a number of issues with posting etc I'll catalogue them here hopefully they may shed some light for the webmaster.

    In XP Pro with IE 8 I have had freezing when posting and recovery messages from IE8 about its difficulty with the site. Also once 'cannot post comment to short'. But then IE8 has been freezing on me elsewhere as well.

    In Win 7 Family edition and IE 9 its all but given up the ghost. So much so I have gone to Chrome and it seems fine to date.
    The main reason I'm answering this is that I've ended up biting the bullet and downloading firefox. I'm always shy of changing things on the computer and I didn't really and still don't understand why an upgrade should have so much trouble with an existing browser (IE9)
    Anyway the preamble above was to explain why I've stuck lots of emoticons on this post. IE9 froze almost every time I did it.
    thanks Hughie for the post. Here goes ...
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    The main reason I'm answering this is that I've ended up biting the bullet and downloading firefox. I'm always shy of changing things on the computer and I didn't really and still don't understand why an upgrade should have so much trouble with an existing browser (IE9)
    Anyway the preamble above was to explain why I've stuck lots of emoticons on this post. IE9 froze almost every time I did it.
    thanks Hughie for the post. Here goes ...
    Score one to Firefox
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey9999 View Post

    Don't come here so much any more.
    I know it's not easily provable from this side of the keyboard but there do seem to be less posts. Is this true?
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwould View Post
    Another benefit of this approach is when I click on Forum Tools in WOODWORK - GENERAL and then click Mark This Forum read, it actually works!
    No it doesn't!
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    I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.


    Regards, Woodwould.

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    My day job is as a programmer. I have several projects at work that include web development (asp.net, jsp/java, php etc...)

    I also do a lot of development work at home as I can

    Firefox has been my choice at home for some 4+ years now but developing at home on Ff then moving that code to IE at work was a joke. I now have IE(6/7/8/9) loaded at home so I can develop for the browsers at work (Ff not allowed).

    The IE dev team at MS like to think they define the specifications of the web but this in not the case. Hence IE being the hardest to program for. The other browsers dev team program for the evolving 'standards' then add in the MS standards for IE only pages.

    When looking at the generated source for the new site here, you see multiple
    Code:
    [if lt IE 8]
    Do not see the same for other browsers.

    Disclaimer: not anti MS. Just anti, wannabee dictators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamarpa View Post
    My day job is as a programmer. I have several projects at work that include web development (asp.net, jsp/java, php etc...)

    I also do a lot of development work at home as I can

    Firefox has been my choice at home for some 4+ years now but developing at home on Ff then moving that code to IE at work was a joke. I now have IE(6/7/8/9) loaded at home so I can develop for the browsers at work (Ff not allowed).

    The IE dev team at MS like to think they define the specifications of the web but this in not the case. Hence IE being the hardest to program for. The other browsers dev team program for the evolving 'standards' then add in the MS standards for IE only pages.

    When looking at the generated source for the new site here, you see multiple
    Code:
    [if lt IE 8]
    Do not see the same for other browsers.

    Disclaimer: not anti MS. Just anti, wannabee dictators.
    As an ex-programmer, I get what you're saying, but IE is the most widely used browser on the planet, and the 'standard' for Windows, since it's included. As such, all web software needs to be developed to work properly in IE. We should not have to swap to FF just for this site. I have no worrying problems anywhere else with IE.

    Thought I'd better add - I know this isn't Neil or anyone here's fault, it's poorly developed/tested vBulletin software.
    Used to have to be compatible with IE & Netscape, now it's IE, Firefox and Google Chrome.

  13. #102
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    Upgraded to FF 16, not much better.
    Helps with this forum but thats about all, gives me more troubles on every other website I go to..

    Anyway, Whats the go with page 2 always saying "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." from the new posts listing
    I know There are more as page 1 tells me its Results 1 to 44 of 61, but every time I go to Page 2 it tells me "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms".

    FF 16.0.01
    Win Xp sp3 plus updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _fly_ View Post
    Upgraded to FF 16, not much better.
    Helps with this forum but thats about all, gives me more troubles on every other website I go to..

    Anyway, Whats the go with page 2 always saying "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." from the new posts listing
    I know There are more as page 1 tells me its Results 1 to 44 of 61, but every time I go to Page 2 it tells me "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms".

    FF 16.0.01
    Win Xp sp3 plus updates.
    Peter, like you I use Win XP - SP3 and updates
    Firefox 16.0.2

    I have used Firefox as my standard browser for more years than I care to remember, I have NEVER had a problem with it on ANY website and I do a lot of internet browsin as well as visiting at least 10 forums every day. I also use Firefox on my Android Tablet, again have never had any problem with it.

    I am at a loss to explain your New Posts problem, see my attached screen prints of page 2 of my New Posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _fly_ View Post
    Upgraded to FF 16, not much better.
    Helps with this forum but thats about all, gives me more troubles on every other website I go to..

    Anyway, Whats the go with page 2 always saying "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." from the new posts listing
    I know There are more as page 1 tells me its Results 1 to 44 of 61, but every time I go to Page 2 it tells me "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms".

    FF 16.0.01
    Win Xp sp3 plus updates.
    I get that if I click new posts when I am not logged in if I log in I get the list. I am also on the latest FF.
    Regards
    Hugh

    Enough is enough, more than enough is too much.

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    I'm glad my desktop is on Linux Solus and FF for Linux 16.01 No problems there.
    Although I run Windoze XP SP3+ and FF 16.02 on my laptop, I still have no issues.
    Russell (aka Mulgabill)
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