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Thread: Lose the Holy Grail?
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4th May 2006, 04:59 PM #1
Lose the Holy Grail?
OK... Maybe not THE Holy Grail, but 'tis A holey grail at least.
7"x3", heavily spalted mystery wood from the firewood pile. I'd turned the base to 2 1/2" but a large arc segment chipped out and cleaning it up left it at only 2" diameter. I couldn't leave it chipped 'cos the base is hollow, so the goblet was unstable.
To my eye, it looks too small... I've been considering turning a surround from red-gum or jarrah to bring it back up to the original 2 1/2" I like the spalted effect and if the base hadn't broken I'd be quite content with it but the base did break and I'm undecided whether it's worth the effort to fix. Not that it'd take much, but if I'm gonna turn I'd rather start on a new 'un altogether.
So I'm asking for your opinion: is this goblet worth keeping & repairing or should I throw it back into the firewood pile?
- Andy Mc
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4th May 2006, 05:06 PM #2
Lovely hunka wood.
However (and this may just be perspective), the base looks FAR too small. By my reckoning it should be about twice the width, but then when I look at 4 inches on a ruler, that is too big... :confused:
As I said, probably perspective.
Personally, I would fix it, or at least I would mean to fix it before forgetting about it for a while...
Cam<Insert witty remark here>
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4th May 2006, 05:18 PM #3
If YOU like it, extend the base in the same wood - I don't think a contrast would work for that piece. I had the same thing happen with a Sally wattle lidded pot - hoped someone would pick it up and take it away but the small base just don't look right so it hangs around to haunt me!
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4th May 2006, 05:54 PM #4You've got to risk it to get the biscuit
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keep it, its a great looking piece of timber.
S T I R L O
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4th May 2006, 07:04 PM #5
In my simple view the base is about 30% too small in diameter. However, I also don't think a contrasting wood would work.
One could take the view that the goblet isn't a drinking vessel, so stability isn't an issue so long as it stands up on itw own, which it clearly does.
What about a clear epoxy or acrylic seating base?
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4th May 2006, 07:30 PM #6
I spent a few mins turning up a ring to bring the base back up to about 1/4" larger than original size, and it makes a world of difference. (No Cameron... it's nowhere near 4" ) It's not glued on, red-gum definitely doesn't look right but that's all I had ready to hand and I was in the mood. I couldn't find any matching timber in the firewood pile but 'twas growing dark when I looked so I'll have another search tomorrow.
Clear epoxy? I dunno about that... but I've plenty of snowflake corian lying around and later I may try a bit. I wonder if I have any clear plexiglass left? That's be a challenge... Jarrah matches fairly closely with the colour of the knotty areas, so I may even try some of that.
The silly thing is, the more I look at it the more it annoys me. It's not anything in particular about it, maybe it's just knowing that it's unfinished.
- Andy Mc
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4th May 2006, 08:05 PM #7
H'mm Skew,
The more I look at that redgum base, the more I like it. More "Hmmms" needed methinks
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4th May 2006, 08:43 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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That size base is more in proportion and I'm with Auld Bassoon - the redgum suits although it may darken with some finish . What about sassafrass
I've just become an optimist . Iv'e made a 25 year plan -oopps I've had a few birthdays - better make that a 20 year plan
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4th May 2006, 09:10 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Hate to tell you this, but with all those holes I think you might get more red
wine down your front than down the gullet
Seriously though I think it looks just fine with the redgum base.
Greolt
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4th May 2006, 09:17 PM #10
I like it, great to see something like that come from a fire heap
Brett
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4th May 2006, 11:57 PM #11
Put your fingers over the holes... she'll be right mate!
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5th May 2006, 12:22 AM #12
The proportions do look much better.
Some how the red gum looks too neat and the colour doesn't add anything to the spalted maple(?).
I thought a dull brown timber might match better or a baltic pine colour.
I can see it is annoying the heck out of you, so you might as well turn up a couple of diferent bases until you get one you like.
The goblet has a really interesting character so I would make the effort to salvage it.Scally
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5th May 2006, 10:53 AM #13
Yep. I think the size is just about perfect now...
Must have been a funny perspective before - or maybe just me...
I reckon that what it is looking for is a very dark ring. Think African Blackwood or Zebrano or maybe even something dyed with our illustrious host's dyes.
Out of interest, how did you turn the ring for the base?<Insert witty remark here>
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5th May 2006, 04:23 PM #14
If the red-gum was darker it may've been OK, but Scally's right about it being too wishy-washy as is. I tried a bit of Corian this morning, between jobs and it's also too blah. Jarrah next, when I get some more free time.
The ring? Just sliced a 1/2" length of redgum stump and rounded it in a BS, then used a 3/4" spade bit to mount it on a set of pin jaws.
I could've hot-melt glued it to a faceplate or turned it off a larger piece mounted in the chuck or... but the above was the quickest and easiest, although not the safest.
- Andy Mc
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5th May 2006, 05:05 PM #15
G'day Skew, my (non-turners) opinion would be to go with Jarrah and roll the lip so the two bases joined at the rolled segment. I hope that makes sense. The idea being to put a shadow line where the join will be.
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