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    Very nice work, I bet you're well pleased.

    From a fellow hi-fi nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daninjt
    Zenwood,

    Check out http://www.shanling.com/CD-T200C.htm, they have some pretty far out looking other kit as well.

    Lignum,

    I think it even sounds better in its new timber home, but maybe I'm biased.

    Cheers,

    Dan
    Well why not, the stand looks fantastic so you are going to enjoy music more while you sit and admire your wonderfull handywork

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    Quote Originally Posted by daninjt
    Comments/critique welcome.
    Having another look at this, I have some comments:
    1. The legs look like they are directly joined to the top without any kind of apron. Such a joint may be quite weak, even with M&Ts. What kind of joint did you use?
    2. The box containing the black unit that hangs underneath the top would have a lot of cross grain movement relative to the top it is joined to. Did you allow for this movement? How?
    3. The curved sides at the very top would suffer the same issue as (2).
    4. The slat sides on the middle two tiers would offer little strength against sideways racking. I can't see any bracing at the back, but putting some in would go along way to making the unit more durable in this regard.
    5. One of the things I like about the design is the overall lightness, but this leads to my concern that issues (1) and (4) mean that a sideways kick against one of the legs would severely test the integrity of the unit.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Thanks Zenwood,

    I was hoping for something I could learn from.

    The legs are attached with biscuits and a couple of 7.5cm screws in each leg.

    The thing at the bottom which holds the black power supply is just glued on. Any suggestions what to do if it falls off.

    I am still planning to attach a back of some description to hide the wires but have not worked out what just yet.

    As for the curved top, its just glued in place too. It was made in the garage which is hot and probably 70-80% humid. Now its in the A/c lounge which is 23 deg and 45% humid. I guess we'll see how it goes.

    Cheers,
    Dan

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    Dan

    I think the piece is an outstanding effort especially as Entertainment units of any kind are very hard to make look nice unless you hide everything away in a nice cabinet but your design is functional without being "in your face" Quite an achievement for someone just getting going in woodwork.

    The piece could even do with a little more presence (pardon the audio pun) which could be achieved by the legs curving slightly outward front to back and side to side. It wouls just widen the stance and anchor it visually to the floor.

    Well Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by daninjt

    The thing at the bottom which holds the black power supply is just glued on. Any suggestions what to do if it falls off.

    Cheers,
    Dan
    Well my suggestion would be to get your credit card and go and buy one to replace that smashed one

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    The power supply box may be the most vulnerable component. A joint that allows movement would have been better for this: a sliding dovetail (tricky to cut) or buttons in a groove (like a tabletop), or special hardware (figure-8s etc.).

    Putting a back on would help overall strength.

    Would be difficult to modify any other elements of the design at this stage, but there's plenty of food for thought when you design the next one (maybe incorporating drawers for CDs).
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    It wouldnt be such an issue if it was full of Kenwood crap, but a few grand plus of high end gear in such a potentially unstable structure would have me prop up a car jack over night just to be sure

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    As a quick insurance measure, maybe put two screws into each side of the power supply holder, say 20 mm and 100 mm from the back. Movement over the 80 mm won't be so much, and the screws will hold if the glue should catastrophically fail.

    If you can find out what the wood is, some experts here should be able to calculate the amount of movement and tell you if the glue is likely to fail.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Thanks for the advice fellas. I'll take another look at the cross grained joints.

    Cheers,

    Dan

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