Thread: Look what crawled out of the woodwork

it dont look too impressed about you disturbing it either

what are the dimensions of the timber and how long did it take to get that size?

the grubs love black wattle,
how are you going to control them in yoiur plantation

So do the wallabies, they keep pruning my seedlings

Originally Posted by oges

it dont look too impressed about you disturbing it either

what are the dimensions of the timber and how long did it take to get that size?

dimensions approx length 1100mm x 110 x 50 took 1.5 hrs to get that its not squared off on all faces. really didnt have the right equipment for the job. Band saw kept overheating. Circular saw didnt have enough depth etc etc but it was an interesting experiment.

Should've embedded 'im in epoxy, and made a bug into a feature!

Originally Posted by echnidna

the grubs love black wattle,
how are you going to control them in yoiur plantation

So do the wallabies, they keep pruning my seedlings

yeah grubs are a problem but this can indicate a nutrient deficiancy if you are seriouse put on NPK 19:12:01 with trace of boron zinc and copper. damage to bark attracts the adult so minimise bark damage longicorn breed early spring so pruning in the cooler months (May june july) to allows trees to cover the edges of the pruning wound. Healthy fast growing trees resist attack.

wallabies can be controlled on very young seelings with watered down egg and iron filings mixture. Or lead poisoning :eek: . If you can keep the wallabies off for a little while they will get going and provide a selection of some sort. is electric fence an option?

Do you have a plantation echidna?

BTW my father taught at Timboon central for some years.

Originally Posted by dadpad

wallabies can be controlled on very young seelings with watered down egg and iron filings mixture.

Do you have a plantation echidna?

More info about the egg & iron filings mixture please dadpad.

Can't use the lead remedy. Its the Brucknell Scout Camp near Timboon.

No plantation just reintroducing black wattles back into a bush where they were totally wiped out by the ash wednesday bushfires.

I think the seedlings we had with the egg/iron filings came from jayfields in wagga. (They were actually E. nitens). ask around larger wholesale nurseries.
the basic principal is egg and water as a glue sprayed on to the seedling in the nursery then iron filings sprinkled on. do this on a plastic sheet and you can recover the filings that dont stick. For reveg i suggest you direct seed (can you source and prep your own seed) and let them do their own thing. they will get going even if eaten back to the ground if they get half a chance. I am surprised they arnt growing like weeds after the bushfires, are you sure they are indigenouse to that particular area? Acacia seed is very responsive to a fire regieme and seed will be viable for up to 50 years in the ground.

Originally Posted by dadpad

dimensions approx length 1100mm x 110 x 50 took 1.5 hrs to get that its not squared off on all faces

Sorry, what I was meaning was how long from seed to harvesting

Originally Posted by oges

Sorry, what I was meaning was how long from seed to harvesting

ah yes i see lol........ Planted in 2000 so 5 years to that size which is around 15ml diam at breast height They will be aprox 15 - 20 years old when we harvest. Good management is a key issue; site is important, soil preparation such as ripping and mounding, nutrient, pruning and thinning when appropriate. If you want to know more PM me i am professionally engaged in the plantations for farms business.

Originally Posted by dadpad

yeah grubs are a problem but this can indicate a nutrient deficiancy if you are seriouse put on NPK 19:12:01 with trace of boron zinc and copper. damage to bark attracts the adult so minimise bark damage longicorn breed early spring so pruning in the cooler months (May june july) to allows trees to cover the edges of the pruning wound. Healthy fast growing trees resist attack.

wallabies can be controlled on very young seelings with watered down egg and iron filings mixture. Or lead poisoning :eek: . If you can keep the wallabies off for a little while they will get going and provide a selection of some sort. is electric fence an option?

Do you have a plantation echidna?

BTW my father taught at Timboon central for some years.

Trout fishers in tassie pay up to 3 bucks each for these tasty morsels (bait I mean). Maybe you should switch from silviculture to grubiculture.. 10,000 trees x 100 grubs = 1,000,000 grubs x 3 bucks = 3,000,000 bucks.:eek::eek::eek::eek: hmmm wanna sharefarm cobber???

Originally Posted by dadpad

are you sure they are indigenouse to that particular area? Acacia seed is very responsive to a fire regieme and seed will be viable for up to 50 years in the ground.

I'm told there were several stands here before ash wednesday which was very intense here. It caused some brick buildings to disintegate.

I think its possible the wallabies kept eating the new shoots as there wouldna been a lot of food around though the fires didn't go much firther south than here.

I have established 3 seed trees so seeds aren't a problem.
Been looking for silver wattle seeds too.
Got heaps of blackwoods seeding now.

Originally Posted by echnidna

I'm told there were several stands here before ash wednesday which was very intense here. It caused some brick buildings to disintegate.

I think its possible the wallabies kept eating the new shoots as there wouldna been a lot of food around though the fires didn't go much firther south than here.

I have established 3 seed trees so seeds aren't a problem.
Been looking for silver wattle seeds too.
Got heaps of blackwoods seeding now.

If its just small quantities of trees, staking and guarding will work but use 1200 25mlx25 ml stakes and guards to suit. Available from Treemax in Melb. http://www.treemax.com.au/revegetation/stakes.html . most mills will supply hardwood stakes or scrap for you to rip down too. it may pay to tack the guards onto the stakes (Drawing pins) as i have seen wallabies lift guards up to get a feed.

Silver and black wattle should be seeding soonish. Mine have well formed pods but yours may have a different timing. Seed could be available from the seed bank in either colac or ballarat. Ask your water authority about the seed bank. Dont bother planting seedling now, wait for next august/sept. Fertilise if you want, 4-6 weeks after planting. Use anything you have on hand (not garden compost, weed potential) (dont worry about trace for reveg) or general garden fertiliser just keep it 15- 20cm away from the seedling on the downhill side. Mulch with hardwood chip if you want to spend the time and expense. I find breaking the ground as deep as you want with a pick is usefull also but watch the erosion potential.
Is ngalawort (sp?) nursery still active down that way? they will be a good source of local plants.