Thread: It appears to be over / An apology

Originally Posted by Beardy

So what is it when that same copper randomly pick a young white Anglo Saxon ( or whatever because I think it is irrelevant) in his bommodore on his way to the shops to buy some smokes?

Evidence of this happening? (or maybe the bommodore was just too suss?) Or is that just conjecture?

Originally Posted by Beardy

... so looked up the official statistics to check and found the percentage of indigenous deaths in custody was consistent everyone else in jail.

You seem to rely on "alternative facts" and cherry picking. I think you'd best read the VERY FIRST LINE from this govt report:
Indigenous Deaths in Custody: Chapter 3 Comparison: Indigenous and Non-Indigenous Deaths | Australian Human Rights Commission

You call indigenous people being 16.5 times more likely to die in custody than non-indigenous ok? Apparently they are only 1.26x more likely to die in actual jail.....because they don't 'king make it there in the first place!!

FFS, get real man if you want to be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Evidence of this happening? (or maybe the bommodore was just too suss?) Or is that just conjecture?


You seem to rely on "alternative facts" and cherry picking. I think you'd best read the VERY FIRST LINE from this govt report:
Indigenous Deaths in Custody: Chapter 3 Comparison: Indigenous and Non-Indigenous Deaths | Australian Human Rights Commission

You call indigenous people being 16.5 times more likely to die in custody than non-indigenous ok? Apparently they are only 1.26x more likely to die in actual jail.....because they don't 'king make it there in the first place!!

FFS, get real man if you want to be taken seriously.

This is the document I was reading which is more recent

https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default...dic_210219.pdf

Originally Posted by Beardy

and you don’t think that happens to other people of various target groups that are not indigenous?

You said it yourself, a target group. My very point.

mick

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

This is exactly the problem, and it is exactly those people who have been given a very loud voice in the US. Just because the Australian versions don't feel at the moment that they can't speak out much, doesn't mean they aren't there, stewing away. Ask Adam Goodes, or a plethora of various indigenous athletes and others. I take the point about US black deaths at the hands of the Police, but white fellas don't do so well with them either (although nowhere near as badly).

I would never suggest for one moment we don't have racists. That is demonstrably true.

The racists are always going to be with us. But relative to the USA, we are doing better. An openly racist candidate is highly unlikely to attract nearly half the vote of the population here.

Remember [rhymes with] Razor Banning? In the last federal election, they received such a pitifully small amount of support they would not have even got their deposits back. I think it is highly unlikely they will appear in future elections.

One Notion party lost even more ground in the recent QLD election. The caveat I would put on that is the former Labor figure that went over to One Notion. If he were to get in a real position of control in One Notion, it would be a different game. He is intelligent, resourceful and as cunning as a rat though fortunately highly repellent. The current management of that party are so spectacularly incompetent they are no threat to anyone but themselves.

Originally Posted by Glider

You said it yourself, a target group. My very point.

mick

The young and stupid pretty much bring themselves to the attention of police everywhere, by their actions.

I highly doubt there are police picking on random white kids just for the hell of it. As I said earlier, while not perfect, our police are far more professional.

That said, based on the statistics of First Nations peoples arrests and custodial sentences, I recognise that our First Nations brothers and sisters almost certainly have a different perspective on this matter than I do.