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    Quote Originally Posted by damian View Post
    There are other simpler ways. Get a cheap jumping off account in a "friendly" country, encrypt to that and bounce off to wherever. Has the added benifit of making all your surfing untraceable, unless they crack your remote host. I suspect such services are available now,
    I have learnt that is called VPN (Virtual Private Network) and will cost you about $5 a month to set up a host in the US..

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    I lied. I do know a little about it. But not enough to address all of Skew's observations.

    Damian's suggestion works only until there are no "friendly" countries left.

    There are even simpler ways. In WW2, the US Marines employed "Code Talkers" from the Navajo tribe. No one else on Earth understood the Navajo language, and there were no written references. All very hush hush, of course, and it worked a treat. This is now public knowledge.

    Graphics, including rebuses, can also be employed. Scoundrels, and non-scoundrels, have been using a voice variation of this since the invention of eavesdropping.

    These two examples employ the concept of only the two secure parties. Google [steganography] for more.

    And I've excluded a few other tricks.

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    Sorry, Joe. Actually, looking back at my other post, I didn't make my main point clearly, although I can see hints of it there. (That's what happens when the inner geek breaks free. I do try not to feed him, though. )

    My main point was, it's not practical to have secure encryption available for "generally surfing the 'net."

    One of the rules of security is only use encryption for msgs that need it. Encrypting everythig simply gives potential crackers adequate samples and the contexts in which they're used, to make breaking the code easier.

    Another is: don't automate it! Databases, etc?

    As soon as you get encryption in place for "general everyday surfing" then both rules are broken and there's not really much point in having the system in the first place.
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    We're in the same church, Skew. Just sittin' in different pews. Yeah, my inner demons break out once in a while, too.

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    See? You can catch Aussie fish from over that side of the pond! It may not have been what you were trawling for, but that's fishing for ya!
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