Thread: CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

Originally Posted by artful bodger

I doubt 5% of blokes would wash their hands after having a leak.

Although not completely sterile, fresh urine itself is relatively so. On the other 'hand', holding the siphon python is another matter. That depends on where it and your hand has been!

Cross contamination from faeces on toilet surfaces is by far the greatest risk from pathogens. The doors in public toilets that need to be pulled open to exit pose the greatest risk. If you only need to have a leak at a urinal the most hygienic protocol is to give the hand washing a miss, ignore the censuring glances from others, and wait for an inward coming patron to open the door for you to escape hands free. That might be awhile in a small county town...

As for farts and Covid-19 transmission, according to Norman Swan on the radio this morning, no bare arsed ones within physical distancing guidelines. Done wearing the usual masking apparel on the rear end, no problem!

... interesting to see the propaganda machine is ramping up the blame game, amplified by Murdoch media, pointing the finger at the Chinese bio-weapons lab.

And the Chinese response questioning the closure of Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab and subsequent spread of virus related deaths in the US in close proximity to it.
Links here and here

Of course the latter is not getting much media traction.

Geo-political peurility.

Speaking of propaganda, take a look at RT and CGTN.
That's how you do it!

china cat.jpg

Statistics.
This thread loves figures. Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe at Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters.
Now, the few contributors to this thread all seem to be in the Hate camp, and there are no Lover responses, so I’m wondering why?
Is it:
a. Trump lovers feel so superior that they can’t be bothered to reply to the scribblings of deluded fools.
b. Trump lovers feel so inferior that they are fearful that anything they write will be treated with scorn and nasty responses from the superior intelligentsia.
c. Trump lovers can’t write.
d. Trump lovers can write but they spend so much time working hard on their businesses or making millions on the stock market that they haven’t got time to write.
e. Most forum members are so busy working on timber projects that they haven’t got any time to contribute to this post.
f. All of the above.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

...... Remember what I said about some men taking a leak and not washing their hands........

Definitely, now you should always wash you hands before .....

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Statistics.
This thread loves figures. Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe at Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters.

I doubt those are real figures. Outside of the United States - Trump supporters are in the minority.



I, for one, think he's a perpetual and petulant child, and I don't hate children.

Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe at Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters.

Some of us just don't care.

Originally Posted by Tccp123

As usual you've missed the point. ....

As usual you've missed the point. Repeatably.

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Statistics.
.... Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe at Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters....

"...Since the early fifteenth century, for example, trump has served as a synonym for fart, or rather to denote an especially noisy fart. ..."

(A Dictionary of Culinary Curiosities) by Mark Morton

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Statistics.
This thread loves figures. Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe at Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters.
Now, the few contributors to this thread all seem to be in the Hate camp, and there are no Lover responses, so I’m wondering why?
Is it:
a. Trump lovers feel so superior that they can’t be bothered to reply to the scribblings of deluded fools.
b. Trump lovers feel so inferior that they are fearful that anything they write will be treated with scorn and nasty responses from the superior intelligentsia.
c. Trump lovers can’t write.
d. Trump lovers can write but they spend so much time working hard on their businesses or making millions on the stock market that they haven’t got time to write.
e. Most forum members are so busy working on timber projects that they haven’t got any time to contribute to this post.
f. All of the above.

Greg

There is a distinct anomaly in the American system where because there is no compulsory voting the successful candidate can win with the approval of only a quarter of the electorate. In fact Trump, you may recall, won despite Clinton attracting more votes, because of the College vote factor (another anomaly to my mind). In 2016 55.7% of the VAP (voting age population) voted ( Voter turnout in the United States presidential elections - Wikipedia ), but that includes quite a large percentage of ineligible voters too, so the actual percentage of eligible voters is smaller. To make the sums easier for my simple mind I have called it 50% and I don't think it would be far off.

From the States a Forum member has confirmed to me that Trump's popularity amongst his supporters has not noticeably waned. It could be that they continue to believe his rhetoric, despite the statistics, possibly because they want to believe. On the other hand, outside of the US his words and recent condemnation of the WHO are mainly seen as disgraceful and a blatant grab to delegate blame and attempt to maintain popularity. This is seen as particularly inappropriate at a time when so much of the world is suffering and the US is demonstrating bully tactics with medical supplies.

I suspect that there are mainly elements of "f" in your summary above. You could have added there is also the sentiment that the Americans are getting what they deserve: However, I would suggest that is a view that lacks compassion as no one except maybe the man at the top deserves to go through this pandemic, if it was avoidable.

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by BobL

According to my mum the person with the cleanest hands and nails in her family was her blacksmith father. Unfortunately I never met him but according to mum after work he would spend many minutes vigorously scrubbing his hands and nails with soap and water, and finish off by cutting a lemon in half and crushing it skin and all AND vigorously rub it all over his hands. The citric acid and lemon oil combo not only removed every trace of charcoal/rust and metal filings, but left his hands soft. All 8 of my uncles and aunts have remarked on how clean and soft his hands were. I've used the lemon wash a few times when I had spare lemons after handling cast iron and it does indeed work amazingly well at getting out the black stuff then ends up in finger/hand skin cracks.

In a workplace study a few years back metal workers were found to have some of the lowest hand bacterial counts of any profession because theY tended to wasH their hands far more often than anyone else. I wonder if the use of tight fitting gloves has made things worse rather than better. Amongst the worst for bacterial hand counts was anyone who used keyboards, especially if not always their own. Office door handles and cistern buttons of the toilets used by these workers were also higher in bacterial counts.

Your Grandfather was also one tough man as well,
Straight lemon juice into any cuts on your hands is pure hell.
As one ex metal worker to another, I understand the ten minutes it’s takes to scrub your hands and arms clean at the end of the day.
An then the reminder of that cut you got at 10.45 am that you forgot about.

Paint thinners are also excellent cut finders!!

Cheers Matt,




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Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Now from my understanding, 50% of the globe are Trump lovers, the other 50% are Trump haters.

As Justonething points out those ratings only apply to the US. To be more precise, since the first 30 days of his presidency, he recently reached an all polls approval high of 45.8% when he started his daily press conferences on the virus. It has started to drop again as the press conferences have degenerated into the Donald show. He has the lowest ratings of ten presidents over the last ninety years. But, that could just be fake news.

Here are his ratings over his presidency, so far.

How Popular Is Donald Trump? | FiveThirtyEight

As for his international ratings...

How the world sees the U.S. and Trump in 10 charts | Pew Research Center

For me he is a symptom and not the cause of a deep malaise in the US. Donald is a worry, but even more troubling for me is that over 45% of its population still approves of his performance this far into his presidency.

In keeping with the forum rules, I attempt to avoid making comments of a political nature on local politics here in Australia. Having a bit of a grizzle is another matter.

However, I would think that offshore politics is different and that making fun of Donald is fair game. The US citizens may feel the need to respect their president, we don't. Although we don't get to vote on their president, their choices do have an impact on us, so we should at least have the right to express our derision if we see fit to do so. I don't see this as being any more political than ridiculing such leaders as "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire (CBE) in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular", and last King of Scotland!
But, as always, I respect the decisions of the moderators.

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Statistics.
e. Most forum members are so busy working on timber projects that they haven’t got any time to contribute to this post.

g. Finding new clients to replace the ones that have begun hibernating.


Yes! I picked up a new actual-real-paying-client on Wednesday. I can eat again! Huzzah!

.... at least for this and next week