Thread: CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

My son along with a bunch of other folks with 3D printers has been cranking out hundred of face shield holders for medical staff although that seems to be coming to and end as more commercial medical PPE becomes available.

Following on from a story I saw on ABC 24 last night I sent my son the lead about these 3D printed "no touch door closer/openers" etc.
Within a couple of hours he found the dude on the internet got a copy of the file and started printing.
It turned out to be not that good a design but then at about 10am he found a bunch of other designs and printed a few out
The one shown below seems to be one of the better ones
These are held by the LHS hook with a pointing finger though the hole and the RHS hook is used to twist and pull open doors, push lift buttons etc.
There are heaps of different designs out there including some neat fold away designs that keep the touch hook inside a plastic cover.

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Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Aren't Google, Amazon, Chairman Xi and an entire industry already doing that?

Yes. And don't forget Facebook, probably THE evil empire of the technology world, by a significant margin.

I find it astonishing and sad that there was so much opposition to the Australia Card - triggering a double dissolution - and yet a majority of people are paying thousands of dollars (via their smart phone) for the privilege of being tracked to a level that George Orwell would find hard to imagine.

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

This is Donald Trump's dilemma.
Can you help him?

Leave it to the adults would be my advice to DT.

Originally Posted by RossM

I find it astonishing and sad that there was so much opposition to the Australia Card - triggering a double dissolution - and yet a majority of people are paying thousands of dollars (via their smart phone) for the privilege of being tracked to a level that George Orwell would find hard to imagine.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Can anyone imagine this scene in Australia? Simply because they are sick of the lockdown?

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What's more, they are almost exclusively overweight middle-aged WHITE males with goatees. Not a woman in sight. I think there might be something in that for all of us.

Are we getting a little distracted from the point. Even ignoring the public display of military weaponry (I am taking the word of you blokes, being more knowledgeable than me on firepower, who hardly knows the difference between a Glock 17 and an AWM lapua magnum sniper rifle) the blatant flaunting of their lockdown policy seems weird. My question being is there no need for a lockdown?

So I looked into the statistics for Michigan, a state of nearly 10 million people bordering the Great Lakes. I couldn't find the total cases for Michigan, but the total deaths were 2,212. The major county, Wayne, which includes Detroit, had 13,223 cases and 1,044 deaths: That is a particularly bad ratio. The plot thickens when you realise that Trump had encouraged the population to defy the restrictions and that the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer is a democrat. This looks horribly like a political ploy by Trump at the expense of the population and a play to coddle up to his red-neck supporters. It would be interesting to know how often he has attacked democrat governors compared to republican governors. I note that Andrew Cuomo, the republican governor of New York, is having quite a stoush with Trump.

Crises of this nature should be beyond politics.

It is shame that we can't allow them to dispense with the lockdown in Michigan and hope that those on the steps of their courthouse (I assume) are those to become seriously infected. Of course that doesn't happen in practice and it is the collateral damage that becomes the most sad aspect: Just like in any gunfight.

Anyhow, back in good old Oz, we appear to be performing much better than so many parts of the world. Actually, with a population two and a half times that of Michigan compare our cases (6547) and deaths (67).

Regards
Paul

The following article has a few interesting points. It questions the use of ventilators (based on hospital experiences), it describes the use of oxygen masks instead, it comments that severe cases present the symptoms of altitude sickness and describes the bizarre transition of patient health from laughing/joking to dire straits in a matter of minutes.

Coronavirus: Are 'live-saving' ventilators actually dangerous? | Daily Mail Online

We still absolutely know so little about this virus.

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

I note that Andrew Cuomo, the republican governor of New York, is having quite a stoush with Trump.

That's more likely because Cuomo is a Demo (there have been suggestions that he should challenge Biden, but he declared no intention because NY needed a steady hand)

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

We still absolutely know so little about this virus.

Very important point Paul. I'm not blaming the medical staff I'd say by far most they are trying to do their best but I wonder how the rush to bring in tech to solve problems clouds the issues.

Originally Posted by doug3030

Make whatever you want from that Brett. Able-bodied white heterosexual males are unique in being the only group that have no lobby group standing up for them. The world seems to support quotas and lobby groups for:

Women
Genders/sexual preferences other than heterosexual (all 97 of them)
Disabled people
minority ethnic groups

Good to see a group that has nobody else lobbying for them standing up for themselves.

I dont know - I look at that picture and I see PLENTY of disability and dysfunction:

-- ED
-- Depression
-- Alcohol abuse
-- Poverty
-- Insecurity
-- Brain damage
-- Lack of social inclusion
-- Stifled career
-- Low and/or lacking education

Add to that a history of wife/child abuse and probably an unhealthy obsession with the wrong sort of pr0n.

These are not typical men. They are unfortunate and sad remnants of a failing system... too stupid to realise their own absolute mediocrity and profoundly lacking the intelligence to remedy it.

They are fringe lunatics, no different to so-called middle-eastern jihadists, but a different country.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

These are not typical men.

Not in Australia, no.

Originally Posted by BobL

Following on from a story I saw on ABC 24 last night I sent my son the lead about these 3D printed "no touch door closer/openers" etc.
Within a couple of hours he found the dude on the internet got a copy of the file and started printing.
It turned out to be not that good a design but then at about 10am he found a bunch of other designs and printed a few out
The one shown below seems to be one of the better ones
These are held by the LHS hook with a pointing finger though the hole and the RHS hook is used to twist and pull open doors, push lift buttons etc.
There are heaps of different designs out there including some neat fold away designs that keep the touch hook inside a plastic cover.

I present to you The Plague Stick!

Works wonderfully.

Opens doors, presses buttons, picks up bags, moves parcels, the lot!

Clever chimp

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Originally Posted by woodPixel

I present to you The Plague Stick!

Works wonderfully.

Opens doors, presses buttons, picks up bags, moves parcels, the lot!

I use a walking =stick because of my disability resulting from my military service (Yes, BobL, I'm discussing disability again, sorry if that "says it all" for you but to me it's a fact of life)

I have found myself using the various parts of the walking stick to be useful for many things like opening doors and pushing lift buttons etc.

Oh, internet, I hate thee.

Now, up pops a comic, almost tailored to the very conversations we are having here. I have every anti-spyware non-tracking anonymised browser and plugin ever devised and The They still throw up these things (so, says The Internet, "I heard you were talking about...")

Worth a bit of a giggle. We are all guilty of being "Dick"

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Originally Posted by woodPixel

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Lol, nailed it! It's the internet's fault!

Before the internet, what did we call trolls?