Thread: The crap has started

Originally Posted by artme

The TV and newspapers and magazines will waste God knows how much time and paper on this crap.

Yep...saw it on the telly...read about it in the paper...heard it on the radio...
THAT'S IT !!...Ive had enough.......I'm going to the woodwork forums ....


AARRRGHH .........

Spot on Underfoot, thought this place would be a safe haven from that sort of carp

Scott.......
Now the Governments are going to have to come up with some gifts.......
What about a rosewood table and chairs from NSW?
Could be the start of something big for you, working for the crown heads of Europe and then you could move onto the warlords in central Asia and the public servants in China.

You may need a bigger shed.

Greg

Chuckles. Brought beautifully back to woodworking. Well done.

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Scott.......
Now the Governments are going to have to come up with some gifts.......
What about a rosewood table and chairs from NSW?
Could be the start of something big for you, working for the crown heads of Europe and then you could move onto the warlords in central Asia and the public servants in China.

You may need a bigger shed.

Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Now the Governments are going to have to come up with some gifts

Why can't we just ship them Julia and the Greens? Willie could line them up like toy soldiers and come in guns blazing in his big helicopter?

Originally Posted by jimbur

Roll on the republic
Cheers,
Jim

Not without a Bill of Rights...

When (not if) Australia becomes a republic the Constitution will be re-written. This will be a major opportunity for government to rape Australians and dissolve their rights even further.

At least Lizzie and the governor general provide a check valve to stop our politicians becoming complete Nazis. Whatever replaces our current system must be well thought out and must include a great deal of input from the citizens.

I will avoid the media as much as possible though (it's all crap anyway, even without royal weddings) but I wish the best for the young royals, and perhaps William and Kate will have better luck than Charles and Diana...

Well!! That was quick. An expected but not so divergent range of replies.

Things are changing , or - some people have not logged on!!

I guess Prof. David Flint has already wet his pants with excitement.

Have to agree with al the talk about sports stars and others behaving badly. None of the snooping, speculation (read gossip ), analysis in these areas of news make a whit of difference to our lives. They simply detract from the true purpose of the Fourth Estate, which by its very debasement of its own existense, has made itself almost irrelavent.

The subject of a republic should be dealt with in a separate thread

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Could be the start of something big for you, working for the crown heads of Europe ...

Been there, done that.

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Scott.......
Now the Governments are going to have to come up with some gifts.......
What about a rosewood table and chairs from NSW?

seem to recall the last royal wedding (Chuck n Di) The wedding pressy was a nice Aussie hardwood box supplied by nth coast craftsman Roger Gifkins

One thing really bothers me about royalty. What right do these people have, other than by accident of birth, to hold the priviledged positions they do??

Read history and see how royal families arose. Machiavellian scheming, murder and various other acts of skullduggery,

My understanding is that Napoleon marched around Europe and other places vandalising all sorts of sites - the Sphinx for one - and handing out royal titles in the process. This same activity caused the Portugues royal family to debunk to Brasil and clone themselves there as a backstop to losing power in Portugal. As a result Brasil had a couple of emperors and an empress. This was the Braganca family.

Now in 1888 princess Isobella abdicated ( she also freed the slaves) and so the royal head of state in brasil disappeared as a political entity.

In the 1990s there was a referendum in Brasil to determine the sort of governmental system was to be adopted after the military government. One Option was a return to a monarchy !!

Now didn't that open a can of worms!! All the various branches of the Braganca family laying claim to the throne should a monarchy be voted in . It was a wonderful farce!!

Remember the Romanov family members returning to Russia? Did they really think they were entitled to anything? Their forefathers had behaved disgracefully enough to put the country in the hands of that buch of murdering thugs called the communists.



Bit of a disjointed ramle I know, but I think you get my drift on the very notion of roalty.

Originally Posted by artme

One thing really bothers me about royalty. What right do these people have, other than by accident of birth, to hold the priviledged positions they do??

We elect our leaders yet party members sack them.

Read history and see how royal families arose. Machiavellian scheming, murder and various other acts of skullduggery, No different to religion, politicians even today. Lets see Gough, Rudd, oops forgot Hawk and Keating.

My understanding is that Napoleon marched around Europe and other places vandalising all sorts of sites - the Sphinx for one - and handing out royal titles in the process. This same activity caused the Portugues royal family to debunk to Brasil and clone themselves there as a backstop to losing power in Portugal. As a result Brasil had a couple of emperors and an empress. This was the Braganca family.

I see private tollways being built but its the taxpayer who is forking the $$$ out

Now in 1888 princess Isobella abdicated ( she also freed the slaves) and so the royal head of state in brasil disappeared as a political entity.

In the 1990s there was a referendum in Brasil to determine the sort of governmental system was to be adopted after the military government. One Option was a return to a monarchy !!

Ah yes the capital where people get shot for............any reason by anybody.

Now didn't that open a can of worms!! All the various branches of the Braganca family laying claim to the throne should a monarchy be voted in . It was a wonderful farce!!

Remember the Romanov family members returning to Russia? Did they really think they were entitled to anything? Their forefathers had behaved disgracefully enough to put the country in the hands of that buch of murdering thugs called the communists.



Bit of a disjointed ramle I know, but I think you get my drift on the very notion of roalty.

Artme you mean that you would prefer such as Castro already deciding who will take his place.

Its not just royalty Arthur, look how we as ordinary people decide the fate of others around us. One bad word and they can become known as gutter trash. Or like a certain politician purley on popularity and being a phisspot end up head of the country.

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Artme you mean that you would prefer such as Castro already deciding who will take his place.

########!! How is it even remotely possible to draw such an inference from what I have said!
Castro, the Kims, and others of there ilk are like most royalty first began - ruthless thugs. They don't call themselves royalty even though they have become dynastic.

Thank god most monarchies these days are constitutional and thereby constrained by laws and conventions hard won over many years and even centuries.

Its not just royalty Arthur, look how we as ordinary people decide the fate of others around us. One bad word and they can become known as gutter trash. Or like a certain politician purley on popularity and being a phisspot end up head of the country.

So? We elect the fools and we can dismiss them..

No one has yet successfully argued the point for and unelected, hereditary head of state. That is what I object to- this position of priviledge and glory without power being a right by birth.

Another point: When deposed many of these royals stilll act as if they have some sort of rights and priviledges. I sometimes watch events lik royal weddings and funerals ( for a short time at least ) just to see who pops up.Last one I remember was
Peter, king of the Bulgars. Not any longer sport . You were off and now you probably bludge your way around the relatives. There are plenty of them so you should be able to lead a comfortable, feckless and whining existence for many years.

Originally Posted by artme

No one has yet successfully argued the point for and unelected, hereditary head of state. That is what I object to- this position of priviledge and glory without power being a right by birth.

Another point: When deposed many of these royals stilll act as if they have some sort of rights and priviledges. I sometimes watch events lik royal weddings and funerals ( for a short time at least ) just to see who pops up.Last one I remember was
Peter, king of the Bulgars. Not any longer sport . You were off and now you probably bludge your way around the relatives. There are plenty of them so you should be able to lead a comfortable, feckless and whining existence for many years.

Even we don't elect a Prime Minister or Gov General they are chosen.