Thread: David Hicks

Just to drag up an old post by BM from the start of this thread....

Surely one forfeits all normal rights when one takes up arms in another country other than in the name of one's own flag?

There's also the matter of it being expedient in having David Hicks being an example of "what happens to those that p*ss off the wrong people".

No-one cares that young Australians are travelling to Israel, Greece or Turkey to participate in those country's national service obligations that they feel they must comply with.... and in the case of those serving in the Isreali military, actively engaging in offensive operations.

Tread on the wrong toes though, and its dragged 1/2 way round the world with a bag over your head and then locked in a cage for a couple of years while your country's elected members of parliment slag off at you.

Silly old David Hicks just couldn't work out which group he could fight for, and have a blind eye turned to his activities.

Go Clinton!

Come on guys, its been an hour and no "he's a terrorist, the sky's fallin"
from the sheep.

baah baah

He's a terrorist's friend. This sheep says "f*ck 'im. Feed him fish heads.

Greg, who tomorrow will have a day more complex than it needs to be because of Hicks' pals.

Originally Posted by Clinton1

No-one cares that young Australians are travelling to Israel, Greece or Turkey to participate in those country's national service obligations that they feel they must comply with.... and in the case of those serving in the Isreali military, actively engaging in offensive operations.

Last I checked, Australia was not at war with people in Israel, Turkey or Greece.

Originally Posted by Clinton1

Tread on the wrong toes though, and its dragged 1/2 way round the world with a bag over your head and then locked in a cage for a couple of years while your country's elected members of parliment slag off at you.

How do you reckon one of those Aussies fighting for Israel would go if captured by the Palestinians?

No person here knows what Hicks has or has not done. No person here knows how Hicks is or is not being treated. Only what they hear in the media, which at the moment is Hicks sympathethic. So at the moment we are getting all the crap spouted by his defence. Hardly going to be a reliable account. Nor, for that matter would be the crap from the other side.

Dan

No-one cares that young Australians are travelling to Israel, Greece or Turkey to participate in those country's national service obligations that they feel they must comply with

I do. I think that if anyone leaves the country to do national service somewhere else, they are making it clear where their allegiances lie and they should be allowed to go and live there in perpetuity.

Originally Posted by ernknot

What a waste of a thread, who cares about Hicks besides the press. Only got himself to blame.

NO WAY! This has been a great thread, reasonable arguments and reasonable debating in a great spirit, NO anomosity and respect for the opinions of others.... good stuff!

Do we have an emotithing with its' tongue planted frimly in its' cheek?:confused:

Originally Posted by Christopha

NO WAY! This has been a great thread, reasonable arguments and reasonable debating in a great spirit, NO anomosity and respect for the opinions of others.... good stuff!

Time to change your medication again mate

Richard

Originally Posted by silentC

they should be allowed to go and live there in perpetuity.

Where is that ? I think it's in Sth America, Brazil maybe :confused:

Its not the issue that Australia is not at war with Israel, Turkey, Greece.

I believe that the issue is that it is illegal to fight in the army of another country, unless you are a member of our Defence Forces and on exchange with an Allied Nation.

Fighting for those countries (in the case of Israel) when you are an Australian citizen is just as illegal as fighting for the Taliban. Any deaths caused by the Australian citizen would be classified as a murder.... just the same as if they were killing in the name of the Taliban/Hells Angels or just for fun.

The issue is, I believe, that a blind eye is turned depending on "with whom you break the law".

The issue is reasonably commonplace, at the very least, for a particular group that have ties to those countries mentioned. The ties usually are the fact that the Australian's parents immigrated from those country, or share a particular religion. Some countries compulsory national service extends to children of citizens that were born overseas.

Just another example of the hypocracy that surrounds the entire situation.

How do you reckon one of those Aussies fighting for Israel would go if captured by the Palestinians?

Pretty rough I reckon, after all you would be captured by an ethnic group that has been consigned to refugee camps for more than 50 years, had all their land and houses stolen and had funcky stuff happen to them - like having kids blown apart on a street by missiles fired at a "target" that was walking past. I reckon they'd be pretty bloody cranky.
After capturing you, a difficult task considering its AK-47's, home-made rockets and car bombs versus F111's, Blackhawks and guided missiles, I reckon that they would make their frustrations very well known.

Hi,

Does anyone here have the same change of thought (as I) in that why does Schapelle Corby get all the headlines in trying to get her back to Australia and not David Hicks?. Is it because she is a good looking woman thus suits Media (both TV and magazines) getting extra $$$$$ revenue?.

My feeling is that her actions (if true) could have been more destructive to the human race (drug taking) than those by Hick's?.

Mind you I feel that the sentences in Indonesia are not consistant given that people involved in bombing are treated with more leniency.

Regards
David

Hi david

My 2c is the govts did a good job on hicks

"worst of the worst" tag.

Plus being male does not get the "protect our women" syndrome.

As Ive said before in the orange room. Hicks would have been a fantastic case study / human source to help us understand how disseffected males can be groomed over to militant islam.

cheers

Originally Posted by Metal Head

Hi,

Does anyone here have the same change of thought

NO.

The dickhead went to learn how to kill innocent people.
He deserves what he gets, he should rot in hell.

Al :mad:

Originally Posted by Metal Head

Hi,

My feeling is that her actions (if true) could have been more destructive to the human race (drug taking) than those by Hick's?.

Regards
David

What? really? That's an interesting bit of calculus that led you to that conclusion. She was involved with what is widely considered a recreational drug with little if any fatal side effects and no proven link to other drugs.

Hicks is a hobby killer who went abroad seeking chaotic situations so that he might do violence unimpeded.

And yes, the sentences in Indonesia are a slap in the face to justice loving people everywhere.

Originally Posted by Metal Head

Hi,

My feeling is that her actions (if true) could have been more destructive to the human race (drug taking) than those by Hick's?.

Regards
David

Think you're wrong here mate.

Marijahoochie is a pretty harmless recreational drug. No one forces anyone to smoke it.

Hick's mates blow innocent people out of the sky, send dopey, illiterate kids to expolde restuarants and school buses without even asking permission.

Very different.

I do agree tho that any Leb, Jew or other who shoots thru to fight for said country should instantly loose their citizenship and pzz off back to where their obvious allegiances lie.

Australians fight in the Australian military. Full stop.