Thread: Environment problems

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

It don't sound all bad to me. I'm sick of the negative whingers. Let's focus on the good things global warming will bring.

Regards
Greg

yeah I've always wanted a beachside home

oh bum I'll hafta move coz I'm only 85 metres above sea level now.

Does the warming mean the Taswegians will be growing mangos and bananas?

Here you go, you can have a look at how the world will look after a 14m sea level rise. This is Sydney harbour but it's like Google maps, you can go anywhere in the world and select a sea level rise to a max of 14m.

http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=-33.84....2268&z=5&m=14

At 14 metres, Holland is gone. So is Venice.

That's ok. I've already seen them

people are dumb we live in a new estate we all have big blocks of land 3a
of the 20 houses only 3 or so face north, most put thier houses to face the street were most have thier windows the only bad thing about this they face west ,,hot in summer cold in winter
the only heater we have is wood we only use this about 16 weeks a year and only at night

most people will not see the sea level rise the mozzies will have wiped out most of the population my then

the answer has to be simple get rid of democercy get us some good dictators because no goverment is going to change anything if it lower our standed of liveing because they will loose the next election

change will come but only when the G/w effect out standed of liveing by then it will be a lot harder to fix

Originally Posted by SPIRIT

the answer has to be simple get rid of democercy get us some good dictators

I vote for Wild Dingo!

Originally Posted by dazzler

I vote for Wild Dingo!

booly hell the speaches would take for ever

good dictators eventually become corrupted by their power.

There is little if any dissension about temperature rises among scientists but considerable disagreement about the effects it will have.

As to the sea levels rising 100 metres.

There was considerable disagreement about the extent of sea level rises in the scientific community. A Warmer earth means more evaporation so more water in the atmoshphere. So the seas may not rise much.

Originally Posted by echnidna

lots of km's are necessary in regional australia.

Sure they are. But do those km's have to be driven in a 6 cylinder car? What's stopping businesses and governments from purchasing smaller cars? Incentives to buy cheap, ?????? Australian built cars (not a big fan personally).

A lot of business km's are unavoidable

A lot of business km's are also avoidable. I'm not saying that everyone should stop driving full stop, but there have got to be ways of minimising travel by car.

cycling in the country is impractical given the often signifigant distances involved

A lot of short trips in cars can easily be replaced with bikes. As a matter of fact, it is estimated that 50% of all car trips are less than 5km. That's disgraceful. Anyone who lives within 20km of their place of work, has showering facilities and does not require a car during the day at work, should be able to ride their bike to work - BOTH ways, EVERY day. 20km should take no more than 1 hour at a leisurely pace, of which most people are capable (and if they're not, then it's probably a good idea to at least start!). I think I'm being reasonable - I'm not saying that people should ditch their cars and replace all car trips with bike trips - rather that if those of us who CAN make a difference TRY to make a difference, it would have a huge impact on the situation.

the emissions tax is totally unnecessary as the governments are reaping huge income from fuel to the extent they have are major cash surpluses.Increase taxes, any sort, the pig trough just gets bigger

Good point. Why not decrease income tax and company tax and instead increase the fuel excise then?

To those of you wondering what we do to mimimise our energy bill, we don't do a heck of a lot. We live in suburbia, about 8km from Brisbane, we have town gas (ie. cheap as chips) and our house is lit by mostly energy saving bulbs. I have a feeling that the fact that we've got a gas hot water system helps too..? We have two reverse cycle inverter air conditioners (both here when we bought the place and had absolutely no impact on our decision to buy) - one in bedroom, one in lounge room. The lounge room system gets used for maybe 10 hours per year (all in February of course) and we use the one in the bedroom sparingly and ONLY for cooling purposes (ie. summer).

I'm really not sure what else contributes to us having such cheap electricity bills??

Cheers,
Lotte

lots of rants here not many idea's

1.reduce the use of cars
this can be done by allowing lots of office workers to work 2-3 days from home. you can allow computer access
this would be especilly good for parents so you kill two birds with one stone
Kids get more parent time and can be picked up so parents dont have to leave kids in expensive daycare and after school care.
so parents save money and can afford solar panels and water tanks.

2.turn of or dim lights in office building, most have big windows and the lower light is more pleasant to work in.
3. set thermostat controls in winter you can put on a jumper.
the number of office workers that strip off when they get in is stupid.

unfortunatly these simple ideas need management on board.and some sense
we've just started a recycling system at work.
were asked to wash our yoghert pots before we bin them.
so idiots are using 3 ltrs of water to recycle a yoghert pot
4. encorage business to use conference phones instead of flying everywhere.
they'll get used to it

astrid

Originally Posted by astrid

lots of rants here not many idea's


the number of office workers that strip off when they get in is stupid.

astrid

Damn!!!! I have been working in the wrong places.

I knew that would get a bite
astrid

Originally Posted by LotteBum

..................As a matter of fact, it is estimated that 50% of all car trips are less than 5km..................

I live in a regional area (a bit more urban than Echidna's area though) and 100% of my trips are more than 5km. 5kms will get me to the next intersection.


Mick