Giving up?

**Dennis Millard** · 12th February 2008, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by zenwood

My grandfather and grandmother died in their early 50s of heart disease: heavy smokers. My father died at 42 of heart disease: heavy smoker. My mother died at 51 of lung cancer: heavy smoker.

My other grandmother is still going strong in her 80s: non-smoker.

I've never smoked, and am glad I've at least lived longer than my dad did.

I cannot understand why cigarettes are legal. Governments are supposed to legislate for the public GOOD. I fail to see the good in legalising tobacco. Smoking is one of the few practices that I can't abide.
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Goodonya Groggy. Keep up the sig for a long as you like.

Just thought I would mention that my grandfather and my father both smoked thick, black shag tobacco all their lives; Grandad died three weeks short of his hundredth birthday and my father drank himself to death at ninety eight! I gave up cigars about twenty years ago, (except for one at Christmas for old times sake), after smoking since about nine years old, and I'm still going strong at almost eighty.
Anyway, it's not any government business what I do. We all choose our own way to go to Hell- or Heaven if we're lucky.
That's my twopennorth.

**Rocker** · 12th February 2008, 12:07 PM

Dennis,

I don't agree that it is not the government's business whether you smoke. The government provides free medical treatment for sufferers from lung cancer, heart disease, and other serious illnesses caused by smoking. You and your relations may have been lucky to have avoided any serious consequences from smoking, but the fact remains that smoking imposes heavy costs on taxpayers, which are not covered by taxes on tobacco.

In my view, government should tax tobacco so heavily that smoking would become an expensive luxury.

Rocker

**tea lady** · 12th February 2008, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dennis Millard

Just thought I would mention that my grandfather and my father both smoked thick, black shag tobacco all their lives; Grandad died three weeks short of his hundredth birthday and my father drank himself to death at ninety eight! I gave up cigars about twenty years ago, (except for one at Christmas for old times sake), after smoking since about nine years old, and I'm still going strong at almost eighty.
Anyway, it's not any government business what I do. We all choose our own way to go to Hell- or Heaven if we're lucky.
That's my twopennorth.

Yes well. Your family seems to have cast iron lungs, but how many did you all help along to an early death through passive smoking over the equivalent of 275ish years? It mightn't be anyones business what you do, but it is if your second hand smoke is engulfing all and sundry around you.

It always seemed a weird way to rebel against society to me. Some of the biggest corporations in the world are making money selling cigerattes. Some say bug corporations run the world behind all that so called democracy. And your family helped them, but without a say in it. And after you are addicted to the nicotine, you have even less say in it.

And living for cigarettes just seems a little too pathetic to me. Fancy having to live to nearly 100 with no other pleasures in life!!

**rod@plasterbrok** · 12th February 2008, 11:12 PM

The last smoke that touched my lips was as I entered the Emergency having a heart attack at age 44.

Never again, I know I cant touch one smoke or I'll be back on themin a flash, and DEAD.

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