Thread: Greenhouse gases.....grizzle time

Originally Posted by gregoryq

You are kidding, right? A weather prediction service based on the lunar cycle?

Obviously by the time frame since my last post you have not read much of what is on that website , so once again making comments based on nothing

http://www.astronomy.org.nz/aas/Jour...udoWeather.asp

Do you want spent neclear rods to be shipped from all over the world into Darwin and then trucked down to some hole in the ground? Damn same if one of them ships sink or trucks tips over.

It's got a half-life of 100,000 years. Not much of what we build today will last 100 years let alone thousands of years.

Nuclear is not the answer.

You are kidding, right? A weather prediction service based on the lunar cycle?

The bloke is trying to sell crap. I would take what he has to say with a grain or two of salt.

Obviously by the time frame since my last post you have not read much of what is on that website , so once again making comments based on nothing

Most of it is bull. He is making it up as he goes along. Don't believe everything you read.

Originally Posted by gidgee 1

Obviously by the time frame since my last post you have not read much of what is on that website , so once again making comments based on nothing

Once again? What's your problem sport?

Originally Posted by Grunt

Do you want spent neclear rods to be shipped from all over the world into Darwin and then trucked down to some hole in the ground? Damn same if one of them ships sink or trucks tips over.

It's got a half-life of 100,000 years. Not much of what we build today will last 100 years let alone thousands of years.

Nuclear is not the answer.

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Actually, no, I don't. I don't think that nuclear is much of an answer to any question, climate or hidden imam.

As for the naysayers of climate change, well, their opinion is like mine: neither opinion matters. You can't fool physics with spin, and you can't change the world until the world wants to be changed.

Originally Posted by gregoryq

Actually, no, I don't. I don't think that nuclear is much of an answer to any question, climate or hidden imam.

As for the naysayers of climate change, well, their opinion is like mine: neither opinion matters. You can't fool physics with spin, and you can't change the world until the world wants to be changed.

I have no problem MATE I agree with your last post.
Yes there appears to be climate change at present .All I am saying is that

MAN IS NOT THE CAUSE OR THE CURE!!

All we need is an infinite probability drive, all our prayers will then be answered.....

Actually, I have been an Australian for years now, but it has only just hit me:
Blame New Zealand! Boiling mud may be the root of all of our problems

MAN IS NOT THE CAUSE OR THE CURE!!

I wouldn't believe the website you are quoting. The guy is a little loonie. Admittedly, there are plenty of sites that attempt to debunk the global warming issue. Equally, there are plenty of sites that say it's real. The majority of climateolgists believe it to be true. That is not to say that they are correct but on the balance of probablity, I'll go with them.

I don't think I'm particlarly green. I'm just a realist. If you look at the way mankind is consuming the resources of the world it is obvious to me that we can't continue to do so forever. The Earth is finite and therefore everything in or on it is finite. Yet we consume more and more. China is increasing it's fosil fuel usage by 30% per year. If this continues by 2030 China alone will use as much fuel as the world does today, that is 85 million barrels a day. We will run out of oil, copper, uranium and just about everything if it continues unabated.

The population of the Earth is 6.5 billion. It has more than doubled in my life time. Every one of these people use and abuse the planet. The Earth's population has reached 'Overshoot'. That is we have exceeded our population limit. Nature has a way of dealing with over populations.

What we need to do is de-populate and individually use less. This is unlikely to happen unless it forced upon us.

My advice is to shoot the person on your left.

Oh, yes it is all the fault of them Kiwis.

Originally Posted by Grunt

The population of the Earth is 6.5 billion. It has more than doubled in my life time. .

Sooooooo!!
It all your fault hey??

Al

i love this thread, so many opinions no solutions. obvioulsy a woodworking site is the correct place for this discussion.

eat less, exercise more, buy a bicycle, love your kids. as indivuduals not much more you can do really. we aint responsible for the overpoulation - technology and civilization wears that one.

what we gotta do is
1) develop fusion power,
2) get off the planet (Interstellar travel and colonisation) and
3) develop trees that can eat salt water (quickly).

grunt is right - enjoy the ride, hope and shoot the bastard to the left of your immediate family (may as well shoot the bastard to the right too)

It was the worst bloody Xmas ever. 10 days 35 degrees +. Couldn't work, couldn't sleep, stayed inside whiging about the weather. Bloody global warning!!!

I discussed it with mum, who checked her diary, she said 10 or so years ago, we had a worse Xmas..... 2 weeks with the temperature over 40 on some days. I can't remember, but she has it in black and white, so what does this mean?

All this means is that you can't take our limited day by day impressions of weather over a hot summer and claim that global warming is a coming.... It may be, (and if I were a tundra dweller, I'd say ..."Bring it on!") but one hot day don't prove anything.

We focus on the negative always. Global warming may be great for some! The aformentioned Tundra dwellers, insectiverous birds, pyromanics, and from a woodie perspective with the extra CO2 in the atmosphere, all the little trees will be very happy, as they will be able to grow faster. Faster growth means more fixed carbon..... well doesn't it?

So where does this leave us.

Unfortunately, with too many little humans, and too many breeders. A pandamic may solve the problem in a nasty way, but I think the Chinese way is almost right, limit families to 2 pax per pair, some won't breed so we'll slowly have negative growth (to quote the good economists).

More steps....encourage gay unions, monks and hermit behaviour, and provide free contraception globally.

Statistics can prove whatever the dissembler wants to show, within degrees of error, but if we are warming up, let's be positive! Tassie and NZ will become great places to move to, Antarctica may become forested, with sea level rises, the Sydney rich and the gold coast canals will all be under 100 foot of water. Now that's a positive!

I don't know, all I want is a good nights sleep, so I think I'll buy an air conditioner.
Regards
Greg

Originally Posted by Greg Ward

Antarctica may become forested,

As it used to be, this is what all the doom and gloomers forget..

Al