Thread: Headsup About Security of your Sheds, Tools and Big Boys Toys

Originally Posted by pmcgee

It is called "Co-burn"

ok I can see that CO is spelt cock but I cant see how BURN is spelt bum

Just squeeze rn. Easy peasy

With some experience in Police matters, I'd say the stolen goods are being shipped out of Australia all together, it has been going on for at least 30 years in the Eastern states that I know of, heavy machinery as well as the gear we use. Several of the East coast bikie gangs were stealing bikes etc, pulling them apart and sending them overseas as 'used machinery parts' or 'scrap metal', then reassembling them in the destination country. The last big bust I saw in Sydney was for several container loads of heavy earth moving machinery.

Some of the victims were smart enough to send details of their stolen bikes to Harley Davidson who do keep a register of stolen Harley's quite separate from any law enforcement body, so if the numbers are not changed there is a chance of finding where the bike has come from.

It should surprise no-one that there is NO international standard for the exchange of information on stolen goods such a vehicles and boats, so once you get the goods off shore it is open slather. The various 'Police' forces (I include Customs here) can't keep drugs out of the country and that is when they are spending hundreds of millions looking at what is coming in, so what chance is there that they are going to find stuff going out when they are not looking and not being encouraged to look?

Anonymity is a warm blanket.

Originally Posted by doug3030

So I followed the link, which gave me a map showing the location of a suburb with eight letters - C O C K B U R N.

Thats fine compared to the name in the table you posted, and quoted by me with seven letters - C O C K B U M.

Go back and see...

I copy and pasted it from a News website.

You have discovered also the reason why it is commonly spelt with upper case on public signs - It's all too easy to insert a small connection between the "r" and the "n" to make a "m".
A bit like the insertion of an "i" in between the TO and the LET on a To let sign.

I think your quoting of statistics is fine Bob, certainly as opposed to the hyperbole of the
press and the shock jocks. The same should be said for the refugee "debate".

I wonder, however, if the statistics are gathered and processed in the same manner each time.
I am cynical enough to believe/think that politicians will fiddle figures to suit their own ends.

A factor that also needs to be taken into account is the VALUE of each theft. Is this accounted
for anywhere.?

Petty theft seems to be treated with little concern these days. Witness my son's computer, birth
certificate and passport theft. The passports and birth certificate have not been recovered and the
police don't appear to be interested in them. A prime set up for identity theft could be in place!!!

From what my son tells me the police on the Gold Coast are so busy with larger crimes that cases
such as his are put t the end of the queue. This information is from the police themselves.

I think we just need to be as wise and as safe and protective as reasonably possible.

Lies, damn lies & statistics.

Originally Posted by BobL

Sure, but hang on, I was responding to the claim "that law and order was out of control" in Perth.
The claim was not about specific suburbs.
And I also already said one suburb can differ substantially from another.

Here are some stats that show this.

Local Government	POPULATION	CRIMES	Per 1000
Peppermint Grove	1,779	19	10.7
Cambridge	27,442	411	15.0
Serpentine-Jarrahdale	18,395	298	16.2
Nedlands	22,918	394	17.2
Cottesloe	8,357	156	18.7
East Fremantle	7,751	147	19.0
Joondalup	167,634	3,275	19.5
Mosman Park	9,513	193	20.3
Kalamunda	56,699	1,180	20.8
Melville	103,767	2,179	21.0
Vincent	31,771	728	22.9
Subiaco	19,077	462	24.2
Canning	89,879	2,366	26.3
Mundaring	39,532	1,047	26.5
Rockingham	108,022	2,896	26.8
Wanneroo	156,337	4,197	26.8
Claremont	10,034	282	28.1
Stirling	205,961	6,346	30.8
Bayswater	62,627	1,980	31.6
Cockbum	94,003	3,068	32.6
Armadale	64,284	2,118	32.9
South Perth	44,760	1,508	33.7
Swan	116,068	3,933	33.9
Gosnells	109,041	3,712	34.0
Belmont	35,979	1,860	51.7
Bassendean	15,000	777	51.8
Kwinana	30,433	1,587	52.1
Fremantle	29,383	1,704	58.0
Victoria Park	33,745	2,518	74.6
Perth	18,616	2,410	129.5

And therein lies the problem with statistics. Crime is rarely the whole of anywhere. It raises its head as and where it chooses. Things get hot, they move on, new district, change of MO. Meanwhile statistics continue to churn out what has happened in the past - maybe. That is after they have been tweaked to suit. Granted, there may be some info to be gleaned, but meanwhile the crims press on. Its a bit like the stock market report, they can tell you what has happened, but it would be so much more beneficial to know what is going to happen. Inside info is the best resource for crime fighting. Obviously, this is illegal for the stock market - too effective. But there is nothing stopping its use to fight crime, where it could be just as effective.

Out of control is a very emotive term as is the use of the word Plod. The onus with removing map references from photographs has to be an individual one and the warning given is timely and useful.
If the police are under-equipped and too few the answer is quite simple - approach your local politicians and advise them of this meanwhile stating that you are willing to pay more taxation to change this state of affairs. You could go further and request surveillance cameras in every street.
In the meantime join Neighbourhood Watch and get to know your neighbours.

approach your local politicians

Hah - half the cabinet run - when they see me coming!

I have lobbied them till I am blue in the face, heck I issue press releases now if they ignore me!

Thats what I like about Politicians - you can tell when they are lying coz their lips are moving!

Well try this for a coincidence - Just got a visit from neighbour, he has been burgled during broad daylight. He recently took photos for an online advertisement for his business (small engine repairs.) I showed him these posts on the forum. He said he fitted the description perfectly.

This might be 1 reason why crime stats are decreasing...

Hi I reported a stolen white hilux a couple days ago from south st outside Murdoch uni.
It was found today by police wich I imagine was because of some1 had seen the post from here. ( judging from the quiet location it was found.)
Unfortunately by the time I got the spare key and went to pick it up ( about an hour ) it had been stolen again.

I had 4 cars vandalised last night. Windows smashed, roofs jumped on! Police said they wouldn't even bother to come out!

This buggy was stolen from Kenwick business in July 2013. Please contact privately if you have any knowledge of its whereabouts.

3600PSI Diesel Pressure Washer stolen from Kenwick business in July, please contact privately if you know anything.

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Diesel water pump (new) stolen from Kenwick business in July, please contact privately if you know anything.

Those last 3 were all the same place, and they were prepared enough with transport to take the lot!

If crimes not out of hand then before the age of social networking we were all ignorant about what levels crime was really at.

Things with stolen bikes got so bad - People saw their own bikes at a certain house... reported to plod and they refused to go there or do anything to recover them -because they had tried a zillion times and the courts just let them out each time... minimal fines which they never pay, so they figured why waste the time and effort and expense for zero result.

So a couple of the local motor cycle clubs held a big charity ride, raised a heap of cash and went to one of the outlaw motorcycle clubs and "put out a contract" on the occupants of the household involved - "get it sorted". Next few days there was news report of, all the windows in the house smashed up and the occupants all fled in fear of their lives.

Now there hasn't been a stolen M/bike report in a week!

We did have 6 or 7 a night!

But the law will tell you don't start vigil anti actions - whereas the experience now is, that's the only thing that works here in the wild west
I'm not personally advocating it - BUT it does seem on this occasion to have had some effect for what its worth.

I have just noticed that in Microsoft Photo Gallery - free Windows program - in the options settings it asks you about information to strip from photos Published using the program.

Paul

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