Thread: Honda

Originally Posted by ozwinner

Hi groovers.

I have a Honda powered motor on my mixer, some time ago the cord on the pull start broke.

I fixed it, but its not the same as it was.

Does anyone have any tips on how to fix the recoil pull start properly?

Al

First Al give a betterer description of "not the same", reckon that'd be a start(er) ...pun fully intentional.

Al,

Having done this several times on B & S motors, I think the secret is the number of winds on the recoil start. Otherwise, the cord handle hangs out limply. Might be the problem? In any event, its a #### of a job. At your age, why don't you have electric start?

Originally Posted by E. maculata

First Al give a betterer description of "not the same", reckon that'd be a start(er) ...pun fully intentional.

Ok.
I have half the chord hanging out, rather than the pull being hard against the housing it dangles about a foot out.

Al

Originally Posted by ozwinner

Ok.
I have half the chord hanging out, rather than the pull being hard against the housing it dangles about a foot out.

Al

Aaaahhhh, I reckon I might have shed some light on the problem.

So how do I fix it?
Is there some link some where as to how/why?

Al

Originally Posted by ozwinner

So how do I fix it?
Is there some link some where as to how/why?

Al

Never done a Honda. Too flash for me. But with the B & S, you need to do one or two turns against the spring to get the cord to seat properly. Its got to have quite a bit of tension. Trouble is, to get it back into the boss on the top of the crankshaft. Even if it hangs out a couple of inches it would be OK. You'd get enough pull to start the motor. I still reckon you need to transcend the dark side and go for electric start. Remember, you're not a young man any more. Hope this helps mate.

Al I don't know if there's an online tutorial, but you need as Keith mentioned more tension in the coil spring, extra winds maybe even only one or two or three against the spring should do it, or $16 at our local mower clinic fixes it every time.

(I have done this more than once, chainsaws, mowers, waterpumps, weedeaters , gennys, that is why when I found out for 16 bucks I could save my sanity, I sucumbed )

Put Ya Yoot motor in it , and the Honda motor in the Yoot. One of them has to go better

Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon

Put Ya Yoot motor in it , and the Honda motor in the Yoot. One of them has to go better

No, Fair Go! Steve, you can't sell Yoots on this Board. Al said so.

Originally Posted by E. maculata

Al I don't know if there's an online tutorial, but you need as Keith mentioned more tension in the coil spring, extra winds maybe even only one or two or three against the spring should do it, or $16 at our local mower clinic fixes it every time.

(I have done this more than once, chainsaws, mowers, waterpumps, weedeaters , gennys, that is why when I found out for 16 bucks I could save my sanity, I sucumbed )

Don't want to be picky here Bruce, but I'd reckon El Picko (did you see how my description of the job was #### out?) would want to fix these things on site, not nick off to the local dealer. He's probably sleeping much sounder now. Gee, these forums are good aren't they? You get to take the out of the moderator without any repurcussions.

It is a bugger of a job but not too hard. take of the winder assembly off undo the whole lot swear a great deal as the spring goes nuts etc etc re wind the rope as youve wound the spring back in as far as it goes then let the whole lot go nuts again, more swearing, then take Bruces' advice and put it in to get serviced.:eek:
Sorry Al but let someone else do it. Or buy an electric one.

Al, when I was mowing I used honda powered mowers, so have replaced a few cords.

Make sure the replacement cord is no thicker than the original, this ensures you can get enough turns on the pulley. On their mower motors at least, honda seem to put on an extra long cord so you don't hit the end like a dog on a chain, try and fit as much rope on the pulley to achieve the same end - without putting too much on that might make it bind

Bit of trial & error to getting the tension right, you want sufficient tension to respool all the cord, without excess tension on the spring. Kinda like getting the tension right on a holland blind, so it returns without going sick & flogging itself to death

Little drizzle or spray of light oil on the spring if you have it apart helps it slide against itself easier.

Once you have the tension right, pull the cord out a foot or so, use a pair of vise grips to clamp the pulley & stop it retracting, then tie a figure of eight stopper knot inside the pull handle, then take off the vise grips.

Result should be the maximum length of correct sized line on the pulley, sufficient tension to retract the cord, and a happy brickie.

If you make it on Sunday, we can pull the starter off the honda mower I still have to check it out.


Cheers..................Sean

Hey Al
Luckily, I've forgotten how to fix busted starter ropes on honda mixer engines.
But just a word of advice -
Next time it doesn't start, check the petrol before the rope breaks

You big wuss Al, never had that sort of trouble on the Villiers our old mixers had, a far better mechanism . Time to get a real motor with out any of that new fangled wind up rubbish. Seriously having replaced a few on an old Honda what has been said before covers it completely.

John