Thread: No Junk Mail Stickers

So you claim that negligence under a contract of marine insurance is the same as somebody injuring himself when in the act of stuffing junk mail in a letterbox.

Somehow that's the same as saying that pigs can fly.

Peter.

Originally Posted by DavidG

Go to your sheds and do something useful.

Such as making a letterbox and a "No Junk Mail" Sign perhaps?

Not at all

negligence under a contract of marine insurance is the same as somebody injuring himself when in the act of stuffing junk mail in a letterbox.

What it shows is the lengths & costs that an insurer (potentially your home insurance and public liability provider) will go too, (All the way to the high court), and the loopholes they will employ - in order to get OUT of their obligation to cover you - when it all goes pear shaped - while someone is stuffing your letter box with junk mail uninvited - and injures themselves and decides to make a work cover claim.

Their insurer will cover them - then their insurer will come after your insurer - who will then find out you supplied a non complaint letterbox (i.e. were negligent and at fault) and drop you right in it - all on your own!. If necessary they will go all the way to the high court to avoid paying the liability they covered - because YOU made a mistake in not providing a compliant letter box.

The Marine operator was insured for 3rd party public liability thru his marine (boat)insurance policy.
His parra sail passenger, was permanently inured / impaired, in the Swam River 20 miles upstream from the harbor / river mouth, and sued his public liability cover insurer for costs/liability.
The mariners insurer declined liability, using an ancient loophole in the maritime law called "peril of the sea" - where when you consign freight by sea & insure the cargo - you accept certain inevitability on the oceans with pirates and such - and not all costs are recoverable.

Trouble is this accident was in the river not the sea.... BUT the insurer went to the high court & managed to convince 3 of the 5 judges that because that section of the river in summer can be subject to brackish water and some minor tidal influence that the river is really the sea and that as a result they weren't liable for the cover they collected the premiums on to provide.

3 of the 5 high court judges agreed... so the Insurer wasn't liable - thus the injured woman's lawyers sued the marine operator and he lost his house.

In the above simile, just substitute "Marine Operator" for "yourself the house owner with the dodgy letterbox".

Substitute your household insurer (and their public liability underwriter) for the Insurer in the above high court appeal case above.

If you think you can get away with a crook letter box forever and not come off second best when it all goes pear shaped & someone sues you - good luck with it!.

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And so it goes...

It's all fine until someone loses an eye!

The only losers in this game is the homeowner... whereas a simple Australia Post ONLY sticker might give you an out - while a no Junk mail sticker isn't worth the paper its printed on.

People seem to be missing the whole point - a simple Australia Post ONLY sticker is the answer - the whole "No Junk Mail" sticker is an urban myth that does NOTHING bar make you as the home owner angry when your letter box is always full of junk mail!

Really how hard is it to get this from all that's been posted thus far?

Now I have to go (I'm off to whack Bobs letter box off the fence with a big stick).

Fe fi fo fum, I smell the poo of the male moo!

If you mount your letterbox on top of a hollow metal cylinder would it be a tube or a pipe?

Cheers

Doug

Back on topic

Looking at the picture of the perfect letterbox the dimensions do not look right. It is a bit difficult to be exact from the photo but the front looks more square that it should be if it were to the dimensions indicated on the picture. Also compare the width to the depth, it just does not look right. It looks big enough for a standard business letter but not an A4 envelope.

I also did a quick search on the nameless hardware stores website and most of the letterboxes I looked at failed to meet the requirement of an opening large enough to take an A4 envelope. Even the ones that look like they are big enough fall just a bit short. I was looking for such a letterbox recently as we were sick of recieving photos folded in half, but could not find a suitably size letterbox available for purchase (at a reasonable price).

They can't sue me. They didn't complete the compulsory site induction before entering my property to shove their unsolicited junk mail into my slot.

Originally Posted by michaellxv

Looking at the picture of the perfect letterbox the dimensions do not look right. It is a bit difficult to be exact from the photo but the front looks more square that it should be if it were to the dimensions indicated on the picture. Also compare the width to the depth, it just does not look right. It looks big enough for a standard business letter but not an A4 envelope.

I also did a quick search on the nameless hardware stores website and most of the letterboxes I looked at failed to meet the requirement of an opening large enough to take an A4 envelope. Even the ones that look like they are big enough fall just a bit short. I was looking for such a letterbox recently as we were sick of recieving photos folded in half, but could not find a suitably size letterbox available for purchase (at a reasonable price).

I was recently asked to install a new letter box for a client as the one on their fence was insecure. Looking at a big hardware store I found a box that I felt fitted the character of the house, unfortunately it may not have been big enough for DL envelopes and magazines may not have fitted in the slot. While the client also liked that particular box, I ended up installing a larger one for its security.

I think I win, I don't have a letter box at all as there's no local mail delivery.

To get my mail, I have to go down to the Port Huon Trading Post to collect it. On the counter is a pile of the usual junk mail and you can take any you like the look of (hardware catalogues are NOT junk mail!)
As I pay all my bills online, I rarely get mail other than the occasional eBay purchase. I still go down to the trading post most days as they make a nice coffee and an all day breakfast

Originally Posted by snowyskiesau

I think I win, I don't have a letter box at all as there's no local mail delivery.

To get my mail, I have to go down to the Port Huon Trading Post to collect it. On the counter is a pile of the usual junk mail and you can take any you like the look of (hardware catalogues are NOT junk mail!)
As I pay all my bills online, I rarely get mail other than the occasional eBay purchase. I still go down to the trading post most days as they make a nice coffee and an all day breakfast

Don't have one here either. No deliveries. Collect our mail at the post Office.