Thread: Tpg email service closer!

Originally Posted by jack620

What's wrong with Gmail?

Google is and has too much of everything in the internet, I just wanted to see if their was something else that was out there....

From what i gather there's a few steps to carry out to migrate your email to "The messaging Company" but once you do you've got a year to sort everything out or longer. Obviously if they don't start charging you you'll have it for as long as you like.

In terms of your options there's a few

- outlook
- Yahoo
- Apple Mail

and of course Gmail.

What's your aversion to gmail? i personally feel they are probably your best bet.

For various reasons, both personal and work related, I have several email addresses

my ISP's domain (nothing new has been subscribed to use it for years)
outlook
gmail
my work's domain
proton, which is our agreed backup for work

gmail is excellent at spam reduction. Importing my ISP email into gmail removes heaps more spam than the ISP's attempts (and they do try)

I highly recommend two addresses on independent platforms, so one can be used as a recovery address for the other, or for online accounts

Originally Posted by droog

Maybe not yet notified, just like I have only received notification on 2 of my 6 email addresses with iiNet.
NodeSupport / Faq / Internode Email Messaging Company | Internode

Thanks for the heads up.

Curious, when I joined up with Internode my fee included a. web access, b. web space, c. email service.

Now, my fee will provide only a. web access. Seems like a way of raising the fees without raising the fees. The hole in my doughnut has just got bigger. (I just heaved a big sigh.)

Adobe just announced "Adobe is modernising the Creative Cloud storage experience and will begin discontinuing Creative Cloud Synced files." Spin for we are working you over?

It seems that many providers are ditching or restricting "web space" possibly for a number of reasons - expansion of "cloud based" storage; hacking .....

I'm getting p....ed off with software now becoming subscription only, and requires web access to be used. Not everyone has high speed web access. I used Adobe's Acrobat Pro but at $30 pm and Standard at $19 pm they can go jump.

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

they can go jump.

I updated my laptop and consequently lost Microsoft Office. I have my old installation notes/licence somewhere, but currently misplaced. (In a safe place.)

In the meantime, I installed LibreOffice. Kind of hated it at first, but it was serving its purpose (ie. replacement for Word and Excel). Over the months I've been using it I'm beginning to feel at home with it. It's Open Source software. No fees. Is it as good as the Microsoft products? Not a patch, but do we need all the bells and whistles? Sometimes, but not often. I'm gradually becoming a convert and not really missing Word or Excel.

There's a lot of quality Open Source software available. The few things I've installed and used have been good. You might consider looking for something that's suitable to your needs, and if you like it send the odd $5 to the developers once or twice a year by way of thanks. If everyone starts moving away from proprietary-based software their management might get the message that they shouldn't be too cocky about making price adjustments.

Originally Posted by r3nov8or

... (Options include

my ISP's domain ...
outlook
gmail
my work's domain
proton, which is our agreed backup for work ...

Originally Posted by tonzeyd

... In terms of your options there's a few

- outlook
- Yahoo
- Apple Mail

and of course Gmail. ....

I am also looking for a new email because of the FW factor. Proton seems to have a lot going for it - both free and paid options.

Any recommendations?

Originally Posted by r3nov8or

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I highly recommend two addresses on independent platforms, so one can be used as a recovery address for the other, or for online accounts

Could you expand on this, please? I am not a nerd, so dumb down your answer appropriately.

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Could you expand on this, please? I am not a nerd, so dumb down your answer appropriately.

It's a "not all your eggs in one basket" solution. IF you can't access your account/s or services through one login because your email acct/s / service is not available for whatever reason you have an independent and already established email account to initiate contact to rectify or recover the situation.

After my run in with Telstra's staff incompetently disconnecting my mobile phone number I've realized the full impact of the verification procedures we rely upon when they aren't available - two factor authentication, no access to bank accts, MyGov - Medicare, Centerlink ..... etc. Same applies to email addresses. Its hell when it doesn't work!

More consumer protections are required in this area as the telco's / email providers take advantage of consumers, knowing their vulnerability and exposure to scams and the sheer complexity. It's an exhausting exercise changing email contact details across the numerous sites & locations it is listed as a contact, sign in or verification code address for one time pins or password resets etc. Plus it's only going to get more difficult and complex to satisfy the verification procedures given the high level hacks on multiple sites that store those details.

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Could you expand on this, please? I am not a nerd, so dumb down your answer appropriately.

I'm not a nerd either, although perhaps I'm a geek

All covered pretty well by Mobyturns.

One additional example is that my gmail.com email address is the recovery address if I get locked out of outlook.com or my personal Microsoft account. Other options are my mobile for SMS or MS Authenticator, but both of those are tied to my handset, whereas a gmail account can be accessed on any browser. Similarly my recovery email for gmail.com is my ISPs email

Originally Posted by r3nov8or

I'm not a nerd either, although perhaps I'm a geek

All covered pretty well by Mobyturns.

One example is that for my outlook.com email, my gmail.com email address is the recovery address if I get locked out of outlook. Other options are my phone number/SMS or MS Authenticator, but both of those are tied to my handset, whereas a gmail account can be accessed on any browser

Is there a difference between a geek and a nerd?

I am still at a loss. I think you are advocating two email addresses at two services. If, say, you are locked out of outlook then you can still access gmail for sending emails. But you still cannot read incoming stuff in outlook ????

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Is there a difference between a geek and a nerd?

"According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, a nerd is someone who is “unstylish, unattractive or socially inept person” and one who is devoted to “intellectual or academic pursuits” and some technology, while a geek is someone who is an “enthusiast or expert, especially in a technological field or activity”"

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

I am still at a loss. I think you are advocating two email addresses at two services. If, say, you are locked out of outlook then you can still access gmail for sending emails. But you still cannot read incoming stuff in outlook ????

A Recovery email address is, for example. where you have previously set another email address so outlook.com can send a code or single-use URL to it, to reset your outlook.com email password / MS account password

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I use a recovery email address with another provider to allow PIN codes and the like to be sent to that other email account in the event that I'm locked out of my primary email account/s for whatever reason. Among other things, my Internode email address is my recovery email address for my Google/Gmail account(s).

Text messages to my mobile phone number is another means of account recovery, but with the increasing number of data breaches (we got hit with both Optus and Latitude) there is no guarantee that you won't lose access to your mobile number in an attack on your accounts.

Originally Posted by NeilS

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Text messages to my mobile phone number is another means of account recovery, but with the increasing number of data breaches (we got hit with both Optus and Latitude) there is no guarantee that you won't lose access to your mobile number in an attack on your accounts.

Text messages/SMS are still offered by many organisations for account recovery codes and a second factor of authentication (2FA aka MFA), but it is on the decline for the reason you described. If you are able to activate Google Authenticator or Microsoft Authenticator on your mobile device at least for your most important accounts, do so, and also ensure you have to unlock your handset with a passcode or biometrics (e.g. face recognition or fingerprint). This form of 2FA/MFA is tied to the handset, not the phone number, so lessens the impact of phone number hijacking (although it is still immensely annoying!)