Thread: The Art of filling and a Mitre Plane.

Thank you Mountain ash

Parcel of Blood wood arrived mid afternoon,
Very nice,



And that is the some of my efforts today.
Tho I did do some precision straight edge research immmmmm.

Cheers Matt.

Hi Matt. The spiral effect I mentioned is most like the piece on the right of your photo. Looks like you have cleaned it up nicely

Originally Posted by Mountain Ash

Hi Matt. The spiral effect I mentioned is most like the piece on the right of your photo. Looks like you have cleaned it up nicely

Um not shore how to say this, but there basically the same when you last touched them M,A
Um I haven’t touched them yet [emoji6]

Cheers Matt.

So, today was bashing day, nothing like being violent with metal. I’m pleasantly surprised, tho not out of the woods yet, hell I’m not even aloud to leave the burbs(Suburbs for those not use to Australians shortening words).
But my hammer arm is way out of shape, and I wasn’t even hitting it that hard.
I’m stuffed, but I thought some progress pics instead of me moaning and whining for a change.




This side is a little gapie.

Still have to draw file the sole,more to reveal the mouth more.


But we are getting somewhere.

Cheers Matt

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Um not shore how to say this, but there basically the same when you last touched them M,A
Um I haven’t touched them yet [emoji6]

Cheers Matt.

Whoops. I did plane a couple but didn't think they looked that nice. Must have been Paul's influence again!

Matt, that's a pretty fancy work bench. Table cloth and all

Originally Posted by Mountain Ash

Matt, that's a pretty fancy work bench. Table cloth and all

That’s a museum piece right there 1957 I think lol

Your wife is very understanding.

If I did such dirty/noisy metal work on the kitchen table... Well... there would be words.

😁

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Your wife is very understanding.

If I did such dirty/noisy metal work on the kitchen table... Well... there would be words.

😁

Yes, likewise, and i doubt I would get to use many of my words.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

.......If I did such dirty/noisy metal work on the kitchen table... Well... there would be words.

...

You'd have show some tolerance under Melbourne's current situation, WP! With his workshop 100Ks away, a bloke's gotta work somewhere, but giving him a table cloth to work on is going above & beyond. Some blokes have all the luck....

Matt, have you thought about how you're going to clean up that mouth? It might be the perspective, but it looks pretty tight in the pic, & even though a mitre plane is supposed to have a very tight mouth, there has to be some gap!

It depends how far you filed your bed down. If you brought it to a sharp edge, the total width of the gap is smaller than it is if you don't bring the bed to a sharp edge, so it may be wide enough already. If you stop short of a sharp edge, the mouth gap will be wider, but the gap between blade edge & front of the mouth can still be very fine. This allows you to get a file in and refine things as necessary.

What I do is "dry-fit" the sides & sole, put in a temporary bed, & check the mouth opening. That way I can make any alterations to get it as close to perfect as possible before peening it up. I try to get it so the blade is either not quite coming through, or I can barely feel it protruding with a finger. If you are striving for a super-thin mouth, it's quite a juggle to get it right, and there is always some teeny squirming of the bits during peening, with split soles, so I've not managed to get one perfect, yet. They've all needed a touch of refinement after peening & lapping, which has increased the mouth gap a bit. You have to allow for the lapping of the sole, which will open the front of the mouth slightly if the bevel slopes forward (which it must do or you'll get terrible choking). So some very fine judgement & guess work is involved when making prototypes!

Looking at the bare sole, the mouth gap of my last one looks quite big: 5 Lapped b.jpg

But with the blade in, you can see the gap between blade & front of mouth (the critical gap) is fine: Mouth.jpg

You don't want to leave the blade-bed too 'blunt' or there won't be enough support under the end of the blade. The gap behind the blade is a bit over a mm here, which I consider ok.

TBH, making a super-fine mouth is as much about pride as practicality. I reckon you'd be flat out taking more than a one-thou shaving with a mouth as fine as some appear to be, & as has been pointed out by a number of others, you don't get much benefit from a super-fine mouth on end grain, so if that's going to be the main use of your plane you can be more relaxed about it. An over-large mouth can catch on the corner of the workpiece if you aren't careful to hold the nose down hard, but that's only if it's extreme....

Cheers,

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Your wife is very understanding.

If I did such dirty/noisy metal work on the kitchen table... Well... there would be words.

[emoji16]

It’s more a place too just look at pieces an plan stuff, well sort of.

Think if I did any real work there you would all be asking, a anyone seen Matt lately lol.



Cheers Matt.

The logical woman/man people dictates that for one to for full there obligations of finishing the task to hand it would be logical to follow a well derived plan of action with a well formed visual plan.


I didn’t do that,

So ,after more sleepless nights, and trying to decide whether I should spend a day procrastinating.
I filed the mouth open after realising I had got all my thinking wrong and following Ian’s leads and a YouTuber,
So , basically I got everything about.
But in the end ,with the mouth now wide open like a cirus clown carnival game.

We have arrived at this.





So ,basically I had originally set up for a very tight mouth with a bevel down design, forgetting I was doing a bevel up plane,
No further questions or remarks are further needed lol.(I’m re reading plane geometry 101 currently)

Moving right along now ,the blade has ruffle been cut to size and the bevel of around 20 degrees filed into it,


I won’t be doing to much to the blade at this stage ,as it’s still in a soft stage , ie it’s hasn’t been hardened yet.
The Bloodwood stuffing has also been roughly cut to size.
I need to work on the bridge also,
So stay tuned for more “I have no idea what I’m doing but have files”.

Cheers Matt.
Ps I ordered some more brass today [emoji1782].

Matt, your honesty is refreshing and you're honestly making me laugh. Thank you for a giggle . Plane is looking better every photo!

Originally Posted by Mountain Ash

Matt, your honesty is refreshing and you're honestly making me laugh. Thank you for a giggle . Plane is looking better every photo!

Do you think I should put a Tip cup out ??[emoji6]

Cheers Matt.