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1st August 2006, 05:16 AM #1
Mortice Chisel - Pigsticker - question
Is it possible to make a Pigsticker in a home workshop ? Is this project out of the scope of a stubburn do it yourselfer? I tried to do searches on this subject but have not been very successful. It is very easy to go to a store and purchase a tool but I find a lot of joy in using a homemade tool that works well. Any advise appreciated.
Dennis
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1st August 2006, 10:34 AM #2
Why not, they are simple enough.
Maybe finding the right bit of steel is the biggest problem.
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1st August 2006, 12:20 PM #3
Morticing chisel is simply a flat chisel ground sidewise, sorta. Him be right, finding the steel is the problem. I kow a fellow who makes tools with Leaf Springs from under Automobiles, How about that?
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1st August 2006, 01:44 PM #4.
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Originally Posted by Hickory
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1st August 2006, 02:52 PM #5
I've made a couple, see here: http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ortice+chisels
A lot easier to make than normal chisels!
Cheers,Andy Mac
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1st August 2006, 04:25 PM #6
Deen
After seeing his December post, Andy refers to it above, I made several mortice chisels for myself.
If I can do it, most people with an IQ above room temperature (I'm talking Cetrigrade) and/or at least two functioning limbs, can also.
If you scrape into the either of the above demographics, have a go!Bodgy
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2nd August 2006, 04:00 AM #7
thanks for the great tips. The size I am looking to make is about 3/8-10mm wide. I like Hickory's tip - I will try and get a hold a leaf spring. If successlful I will post here.
Andy Mac, thanks for the link . Quick question. Did you solder a stop at the bottom of your handle ? What keeps it from driving itself further into the handle when you strike it with a mallet ?
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2nd August 2006, 04:54 AM #8Originally Posted by ddeen
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2nd August 2006, 12:40 PM #9
Hi ddean,
The chisel has a substantial 'washer' or bolster fitted over the tang. It has a rectangular hole filed into it which settles right down onto the shoulder, and then a thick leather washer is fitted before the handle goes on. I haven't bothered soldering the bolster on, its just a light force fit, and with the leather, spreads the shock so the handle doesn't split etc. BTW the handle, according to what I've read (ie. Bob Wearing), is oval shaped and tapered down towards the blade. A very substantial grip.
The steel I've been using is annealed leaf spring stock from a spring works. Soft enough to hacksaw and file, before heat treating.
Cheers,Andy Mac
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2nd August 2006, 01:54 PM #10
I've made a few out of square O1 tool steel, tough as. The steel comes square and dead on
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3rd August 2006, 03:14 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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I got these from www.toolsforworkingwood.com. The catalog they are lying on is roughly A4/Quarto. Made by Ray Isles (brother to Ashley?) in the UK - much easier than getting all by smithing gear out & pounding out a pair on my own. HUGE handles too.
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Originally Posted by bsrlee
Cheers, Alf
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8th August 2006, 12:36 AM #13
wip - pigsticker & fishtail
No where as nice as some of the samples above but got to start somewhere. I got a hold of a used leaf spring for 5 bucks. It is not quite the thickness I am looking for but it is proving to be good practice. If it turns out good I will do my second one with 01 steel (thanks Toolin Around). What is not shown in the picture is a glass of water that I had to constantly had to dip the steel in to keep it cool. Also including WIP of second fishtail chisel I am making. The first one I made is excellent but I wanted to also have one with a narrower tip. My poor battery powered dremmel tool and 5 inch grinder had to work overtime.
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8th August 2006, 06:57 PM #14
Gday Dennis, a 4" angle grinder & a few thin (1/16") cutoff discs would save you a lot of time and wear & tear on your Dremel. They cut fast & relatively cool.
Pretty cheap over here, should be next to nothing over there.
Good work on the chisels, like the houndstooth d/ts on the grinder rest too
Cheers..............Sean
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8th August 2006, 07:22 PM #15
Dennis
Scoots is spot on re the thin cut-off discs. They cut very quickly and accurately.
I use then for all my steel cuts, if I can't use the cut-off saw, so much better than the standard cut-off wheels.
They wear out a bit quick, but I guess thats to be expected. On reflection tho no quicker than the standard discs.
Another recommendation is you buy a 3M, or clone, polishing disc for the same 4" grinder. These look like a sort of honeycombe, blue in colour (tho that depends on the brand)
They are just the Ducks Guts for polishing away the grind and saw marks. I also use them to clean up old plane soles and cheeks before going to W&D.
For my home made chisels etc, after using the above, I go straight to rouge on a polishing wheel. Mirror finish.Bodgy
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