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13th March 2006, 09:28 PM #1
Simplification of the Rocker Box-joint jig
In my original post describing this jig - http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ead.php?t=9089 - the jig is fitted with a dial gauge to aid in micro-adjustment. It has occurred to me that the dial gauge is in fact redundant, if you you have a caliper to measure the position of the index pin in relation to the dado-set blades.
For a box joint to fit correctly, the jig must be set up so that the index pin is exactly the same thickness as the width of the kerf that is cut by the dado-set blades, and the distance between the blades and the index pin must be set to equal that same measurement. In effect, then, the distance between the outer edge of the blades and the far side of the index pin (a distance that can easily be measured with a caliper) must be three times the thickness of the index pin. The threaded-rod micro-adjustment system on the jig makes it easy to set this distance correctly, and then to lock the index-pin board in position with the butterfly nuts.
The pictures below show the measurement being taken with a caliper. The dado-set blades cut a kerf 6.54 mm wide; the index pin made from two pieces of 1/8" brass bar, is the same width, and the measurement taken is three times that amount 19.62 mm. Okay, the caliper says 19.61 mm, but what is 0.01 mm between friends?
People who want a detailed description of the jig can PM me with their e-mail address to receive an article on it.
Rocker
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14th March 2006, 03:39 AM #2
Very interesting.
If you still have my email addy handy, send it over please. Unlike the mortising jig, I promise to not work this one over.
Much...
(Pics of that mortise + tenon thing tomorrow with any luck. Sorted the final bugs today I hope. I think it might be too fiddly, but it I was laughing at it today. Always a good sign. If nothing else, there's lots of little tweaks that are begging to be stolen. )
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14th March 2006, 08:50 AM #3
Yep, Rocker, you are right on here! I figured this one out after a few uses of the jig. In fact, I found the dial guage was so sensitive, that unless I could find a way to mount it without even a angstrom of movement, it was more trouble than it was worth. Thats when I resorted to using my trusty caliper.
(You will have to look up 'angstrom'.)
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14th March 2006, 09:25 AM #4
Don,
Surely you mean Ångström unit
In fact, the dial gauge is similarly redundant on my tenoning jig also, since it is easy enough to measure the side-fence position in relation to the saw blade with a caliper.
Rocker
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Originally Posted by DPB
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15th March 2006, 01:43 AM #6
Rocker, thanks for the file.
I don't have a dado set, nor a table saw worthy of a dado set.
But I do have a router, so that means I will have to adapt your nice simple jig into some unweildy monstrosity to work with the router.
It would seem that where I claimed I would not modify your jig...
I lied.
Thanks again.
(Pics of the MT thing after I click send on this reply.)
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15th March 2006, 10:03 AM #7
So far, about half of the people who have PMed me requesting plans of the jig have omitted to supply their e-mail address
IF YOU WANT THE PLANS, GIVE ME YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS; I CANNOT SEND THEM WITHOUT IT!
Rocker
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15th March 2006, 10:07 AM #8
Schtoo,
I don't think you will have much difficulty in adapting the jig to a router table, although it may be tricky to achieve the same accuracy with only one runner. You will need to ensure that the runner is a really snug fit in the mitre slot.
Rocker
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15th March 2006, 10:10 AM #9
Rocker, it amazes me how you keep coming up with these jigs and continual improvements.
I would love a copy of the article, I've sent you a PM with my email addressHave a nice day - Cheers
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15th March 2006, 07:41 PM #10
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16th March 2006, 12:35 AM #11
I think for the short term, if I need some box joints I'll prolly work out some kind of fence arrangement, possibly with the jig running over the top or something similar. Not too concerned, sliding runners is something I really do know how to do well. My lathe taught me that.
When I get around to a proper table, I am thinking of a sliding table running on linear
bearings.
For now my table is a piece of MDF, router screwed underneath and a stout stick. Ugly as sin but works like a charm.
Might even warrant a dedicated jig, if it comes down to it. Shouldn't be too tricky I don't think.
Although they do sell fixed with slotting cutters here. From 3mm up to about 32mm or so. Big carbide teeth and all the rest. Not adjustable like a dado stack, but I guess a couple in simple sizes like 6, 9 and 12mm might do the job well enough. Not too expensive either if I recall, might be worth grabbing one and finding out.
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18th March 2006, 03:13 PM #12
The revised versions (in metric and inches) of the article describing the jig are now available, with new diagrams and photos. If you want the article, GIVE ME YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS in a PM.
Rocker
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20th March 2006, 08:21 PM #13
It is worthwhile, IMO, when building a box-joint jig, to make your index pins a round number of millimetres thick. This is easy enough to do if you use 6 x 25 mm aluminium bar stock to make the pins. The bar stock I had was actually 6.08 mm thick, but it was easy to sand it down to exactly 6 mm thickness for making 6, 12, and 18 mm index pins. Having the index pin a round number of mm thick makes it much easier to design and draw your box, even if you are using CAD to do so.
6 mm is thinner than the kerf produced by the outer blades of a dado set; but I found I could get an exact 6 mm kerf by using one outer blade and one 3/32" chipper blade with a shim in between.
If you happen to be a yank, or a dinosaur, you could use 1/8" x 1/2" brass bar stock to make index pins in multiples of 1/4". But brass is a lot harder to sand to exact size than aluminium.
Rocker
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10th May 2006, 11:10 AM #14
Article published
An article on my box-joint jig is published in the current issue (#127) of AW.
Rocker
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10th May 2006, 11:52 AM #15Originally Posted by doug the slugCheers,
Craig
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