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13th November 2021, 12:42 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Suggestions for blade use please
I have this good old Henry Bocker blade that I found amongst my grandfathers tools, but I don’t have a plane that fits it.
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It’s 1 1/2” wide and too nice a bit of steel to not be utilised. I hardly “need” another plane but that’s not a good enough reason to not make another plane. So, one thing I have trouble with is cranky grain and thought about a high angle smoother but the blade might be a bit narrow for that. Another thought was a mitre plane because my only low angle plane is a Stanley 220 block plane.
So, it’s over to the panel now for suggestions - fire away!
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13th November 2021, 12:59 PM #2
Picko
If you are chasing a plane for cranky grain, why not try a scraper?
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13th November 2021, 01:29 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Yeah Paul a scraper plane is something I’ve thought of recently and even revisited Cklett’s challenge build thread, but for this blade I’d rather go down the more traditional track.
Speaking of scrapers I have only recently found one that works well for me. I have never been able to get a card scraper to work to my satisfaction and recently tried a piece of 3mm thick HSS ground to a square edge. It was a bloody revelation to me! I could not believe how well it worked and how long the edge lasted- nothing like my card scraper experience.
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13th November 2021, 02:50 PM #4
Everyone needs a block plane-sized smoother for small sections of interlocked or reversing grained timber.
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13th November 2021, 04:18 PM #5
1-1/2 inches is a very handy and versatile width.
Scrub plane, small smoother, skewed rebate plane or even a chamfer plane could be considered
If your Henry Boker is a laminated blade like mine, it will only have the cutting steel on the last inch or so of the blade, so leaving the cutting edge square and flat would be my choice.
If not, then you might consider a radiused profile for a scrub plane - the largest shown below.
You could skew the blade and grind it to suit - the smallest plane shown is a skew rebate plane and the blade comes to the left edge.
The middle plane is a chamfer plane with an adjustable width mouth. By raising or lowering the escapement, the mouth takes a narrower or wider cut.
None of these have a cap-iron and work very well as single iron planes
Tom
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13th November 2021, 06:28 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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13th November 2021, 06:35 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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13th November 2021, 07:07 PM #8
Picko,
You know you want too, why are you asking us for permission, it’s just only one more tool, it really won’t take up that much more room, you know you really want it, I can tell.
It honestly won’t take that long to make,[emoji6]
Go on do it.
Cheers Matt.
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14th November 2021, 09:19 AM #9
I agree with Derek. A small smoother is great too. I love the small infill I have from Ian.
However, this blade looks more for use as single iron. I'd go for a mitre or chariot plane.
Looking forward to another build thread [emoji6]
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14th November 2021, 09:35 AM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks C. Im not scared of slotting the blade and making/adapting a cap iron. Mmmm, chariot plane.
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28th November 2021, 08:22 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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Right-o, I think I've decided on a block plane. I'm in the sketch phase and looking at ideas. Is this a lazy mans way of avoiding a tongue and groove sole or is it a valid approach that I hadn't thought of?
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28th November 2021, 12:39 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Looks good to me but I would wait for some more "expert" opinions
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28th November 2021, 12:59 PM #13
I built a bunch of block planes one time. These featured a 1 1/4” wide blade, which was set bevel down at 40 degrees. The advantage of this was that the blade was not at risk for a wear bevel on the rear, and the cutting angle was low for end grain. These worked really well.
The construction was classic Krenov, and the result was nicely ergonomic …
Regards from Perth
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28th November 2021, 02:54 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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Unusual, but nice shape Derek.
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29th November 2021, 02:32 PM #15
Actually, the shape is not that unusual. Its a fairy standard Krenov shape.
Just google Krenov hand planes and you will get lots of hits. When Krenof designed it it was revolutionary in that:
- it was designed to fit his hand comfortably, and
- his lamination technique simplified construction.
It is a great project!
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